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Posted on Mar 18, 2008

Bobbin problem THe thread keeps on wrapping around the bobbin case or else it just knots on the underside of the fabric and either way the maching jams and stops and I have to cut the fabric free. I have tried everything that the instruction booklet recommends but there is nothing specific regarding this problem

  • livin4christ Jun 18, 2008

    The thread keeps on wrapping around the bobbin case and/or it
    knots on the underside of the fabric and the machine jams
    and stops and I have to cut the fabric free. I have tried everything
    that the instruction booklet recommends but there is nothing specific
    regarding this problem
    Please email me with the timing instructions.
    Thanks,
    JoAnn



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When you thread your bobbin and put it in the case the thread should be on the left side of that little arm on the bobbin case. It allows the thread to slide off that arm.

Another issue could be your lower tension. You may need to loosen or tighten it.

I had the same issue and the above two things eliminated the problem.

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