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Top thread won't catch bobbin thread and needle is hittig the bobbin casing

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The timing of the needle/hook may be off which happens often if the needle strikes a pin or something else it shouldn't. If a brand new needle has been installed facing the correct direction and it is still hitting under the needleplate, then the timing needs to be addressed. There are many web sites and videos online explaining sewing machine timing that you can try if so inclined. Otherwise, take it for service.

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Is it the right size needle, some needles are longer than others. Is your bobbin case in correctly, is a needle pushed all the way up before you tighten their thumb screw if it wasn't tightened it may have come loose and drop down just a bit

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radcal

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  • Posted on Nov 14, 2007

SOURCE: Bottom thread will not catch

Unplug the machine and remove the needle plate so that the bobbin case if fully exposed. Lift out the bobbin case and the cup that it sets in will be visible. Locate the "hook" on this cup. It is a finger with a sharp point at the upper edge of the cup. The hook is what grabs the thread from the needle while sewing.

  • Thread the needle.
  • Turn the handwheel by hand.
  • Watch the hook as it approaches the needle from right to left.
If the hook passes by the needle AFTER the eye of the needle is above it, you timing has slipped and the machine must be taken in for repair.
If the hook catches the thread from the needle, put everything back together and try threading again.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 13, 2008

SOURCE: the bobbin thread on sewing machine will not catch

how do you retime

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 04, 2008

SOURCE: I cannot get the needle to catch the bobbin thread

sounds like your keeping the upper thread too tight when you drop your needle down to catch the bobbin or the bobbin thread that you left hang out is too short, let me know if it works amy

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 07, 2008

SOURCE: bobbin thread not catching

Whenever you see loops on the underside of the fabric something is snagging the thread. the biggest culprit is burrs on the hook. the hook is what goes round and around the bobbin. The reason for burrs on the tip of the hook areseveral

ONE ...is by helping the fabric through as the machine is doing the sewing which directs the needle too close to the hook thus scarring the smooth surface of the hook and potentially breaking it off and the needle too. You must allow the machine do it on its own and only guide the material.

TWO...Sometimes if you are sewing s-t-r-e-t-c-h-y double knit material the material calls for a ball point needle. I have gotten good results with the Singer brand YELLOW BAND needle.

Three ... The hook could have gotten out of timing. What this means is that the hook is not meeting the needle on the top edge of the eye of the needle. You yourself can check this out by removing the bobbin (or shuttle, cassette). Install the needle flat side to flat side of the mounting rod and all the way up. By slowly turning the handwheel on the right slowly and watching that the eye of the needle is just below the hook on the upward swing of the needle and that they both meet dead center. This when you need to take it in to a repairman. FrankIy I don't like to advise this because of unscruppulous practices. My boss used to call me a virgin Mary because I wouldn't ripp-off the customers. Anyway at this time you can also check the condition of the hook carefully looking for nicks and scratches on or around the tip of the hook. If there is damage present you can file this down with a very fine emory board or by using a strip of 400 to 600 grit sandpaper as if your were buffing a shoe. If the hook is removeable by unsnapping the snaps on either side its easier to buff. Anything courser may contibute to the problem. If the paper won't remove the damage you may need a whole new hook. If its not removeable you will have to take it in to have it installed.They have to time it properly.

Four...The two disk that you mentioned also has a spring. That sping is there to pull up those loops. If the disks are full of lint from the thread going through. the clups of lint won't allow the discs to apply tension on the thread and thereby having tightened the tension so much that that spring is not working properly.You can clean the discs by raising the foot which opens the discs. With a long narrow pick pull out all that lint without scatching the discs. Check closely that the the thread goes across the top of the machine down through the discs pull up snug so the spring engages,through the take up arm,in the two thead guides, then into the needle front to back or right to left, if it is a side loading bobbin. Now the tension will work properly!

TESTING : Move the TENSION dial to mid point of the dial usually 5. This is your starting point.
With two layers of fabric ( not stretchy) and with a regular needle, set stitch length at about 12 per inch on the dial. Now sew about six inches. Raise the fabric and look at the results. Do minor adjustments necessary on your tension dial up 6...7.. if loose on the bottom 4...3..2 if loose on top.
If you did all the steps above those are the steps a repairman performs and charges $75 except me I used to charge $10 .

Brother machines are good quality it is those hidden gremlins that make a fun hobby frustrating when you don't have someone to turn to without having to shell out cash! Its been a pleasure!

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 07, 2009

SOURCE: Not picking up the Bobbin thread

Sounds like you have to take off the throat plate and clean out threads under it.  Sometime they ball up and prevent the needle from going down and catching the bobbin thread. You can't see themuntil you take off the plate.  Follow the directions.  It is easy.

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Check that the machine is correctly threaded top & bobbin.

Hand rotate the handwheel toward you while holding the top thread tail gently. Rotate the handwheel one full revolution. It should pull up the bobbin thread. If it does not, then there is most likely a needle/hook timing issue. What is happening is the needle is not arriving at the bobbin at the correct time to catch the bobbin thread.

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How do you load the bobbin properly?

Hi there,

Well you may please follow the steps below -
1. Remove the bobbin from the sewing machine. Note: whether you have a drop-in, front or side-loading bobbin on your sewing machine. A drop in bobbin will load from the top, may be via a removable bobbin case cover near the machine-fed dogs. A side or front loading bobbin needs to be loaded into a removable bobbin case under the machine.
2. Choose the right size bobbin for the sewing machine.
3. Wind thread onto your bobbin. Your sewing machine should have a standard thread spool to hold the thread and a short, squat post wide enough for a bobbin.
4. Put the thread and empty bobbin into position on your sewing machine. Wrap the thread around the bobbin to start it. On most machines, disengage the needle by turning the smaller hand-wheel on the machine toward you. Push the bobbin post into position, securing the bobbin into place. Press gently down. Thread should begin to wind neatly onto your bobbin.
5. Break the thread, push the bobbin post back into an inactive position and remove the bobbin. Tighten the hand-wheel. Thread your sewing machine again if necessary before loading the bobbin.
6. Remove the bobbin case cover and put the bobbin into position. The thread should slide through a catch on the bobbin case and up through the cover.
7. Access the bobbin case for a front or side mount bobbin. Lift the catch and remove the removable bobbin holder. Put the bobbin into the holder and run the thread through the holder, bringing it to the front. Lift the catch and slide the bobbin holder back into the case. Hold your needle thread gently forward with your left hand and turn the hand-wheel. The needle thread will pass down into the machine and catch a loop of the bobbin thread. Pull this loop up and slide both threads to the back before beginning to sew.
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