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Anonymous Posted on May 07, 2014

Vulcan gas 5310052 heater intermittently cuts out. Gets to temp eventually. Removed rear cover to expose control unit. Found that burners come on for about 20 to 30 secs then cut out but fan continues

5 Burner Vulcan ILEC Product number 5310052

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Yes. Vulcan heater company is still making heaters. Here is the link. http://www.vulcanelectric.com/

Grainger is a direct seller of Vulcan heaters, so you chould be able to give them a call, explain what you need or giver them a part number and they will be able to get what you need.

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  • Posted on Sep 21, 2010

SOURCE: we have a Vulcan Ultra high efficiency gas ducted heating

Gas ducted central heater won't switch on all of a sudden

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