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Main crank to balance shaft timing guide it snapt ive replaced it but i need to set the cam timing but there's no marks to show if the timing is correct.can you help thanks

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Timming markes are on the flywheel and pull valve covers and line up cams with marks or holes in pulleys

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A Small Sprocket on the crank turns a larger (2 to 1 ratio) jackshaft sprocket that is in turn connected front & back to the 2 camshafts.

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Firing order is 1-4 2-5 3-6, Right side numbers 1,2,3. Left Side = 4,5,6.

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