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Sure. Just slower.
If you remove the motor from a power wheelchair to use in other applications keep this in mind; these motors are designed for PulseWidthModulation Speed Control (apx. 10kHz) with a feedback control to keep the speed more consistent. Feedback and pulsing is key to power and efficiency. If you run them at 12 volts without a pulse control the current to power output is much higher and the I*I*R (I squared times R) losses are higher - dissipated as heat. The motors will run very hot under a load with DC that isnt PWM'ed.
If the use/cool down duration is short you should not have issues.

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I bought a pride wrangler mobility scooter. Did not move could hear a click coming from left motor. took right motor off and tore it down. It was all glazed over.

If two 24v batteries are the standard fitment it isn't likely it would be fitted with a 36v motor - unless some bright person fitted the wrong one...

I am not sure what you mean by "glazed over" unless it is the commutator you refer to? A commutator made from quality materials and fitted with brushes made from the correct grade of carbon or copper/carbon and being run at approx. the correct voltage is likely to become well polished and may become carbon black in colour but that is without detriment.
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Once reassembled the motor can be connected directly to 24 volts for testing.
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No fan or heat on gas furnace

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0025 error code

this is a common problem on this models
the motor is not turning
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first take out the dev unit and see if it has toner in it if the dev unit is full then check the sub hopper unit and if any one of these are empty then that motor is bad also verify if you are getting 24v at the motors that are driving the toner into the dev unit 2 motors located behind the primary charge unit cover
if 24v is missing then replace the pico fuse on the dc controller or replace the dc controller
if 24v is present then replace the motor
if you still need help contact me mickey at mnmsllc.com
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How can I operate my LG 26LE5300 LED LCD TV in my motorhome the most direct way possible (i.e....without an inverter)? This low power (40-50 watts) TV has an external brick to convert 120 AC to it's...

1) You need to look at the output current rating (AMP) of this AC to 24dc adapter, this 24vdc adapter is a regulated switching power supply that will maintain 24vdc output up the maximum current rating and also has shutdown circuits if the over current draw is detect and also if the output voltage goes up beyond 24vdc to protect the load (TV).

2) To use 12vdc to 24vdc DC-DC booster, it should have the following spec:

A) The output current rating should be at least 20% higher than the load requires to give its head room.
B) It must have regulated output that will maintain the 24vdc when the input (12vdc) will vary from 10vdc ~16vdc or higher since your batteries will not maintain exact 12vdc all the time.
C) It must have good protection circuits that will protect it self from reverse polarity connections, shorted output protection, over voltage output protection.
D) It should provide AC ripple spec on the 24vdc output, it should be in the milli-volt range (you will always get AC ripple riding on top of DC when you rectify the AC into DC).

These are the minimum requirement for your DC to DC booster, which you need to protect your TV and your motor home from burning down.
I hope I explain it OK to you.

Please leave rating if it helps.

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Need 24v power supply, where can i get one.

Hi JR,

You didn't specify AC or DC. That's ok, I'm having a two-fer-one special.

Doorbell transformers give back 24VAC

Two 12VDC batteries in series gives you 24VDC. Overkill?

Transformers from many HP printers ar between 20 to 30 VDC.

The source I use is GoodWill. In the electronics or computers section, they usually have a big box of them.

Hope this helps you out
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