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6 year old top-load whirlpool (LSB6300LW0) will not agitate. Initially would not agitate or drain. I removed a kid's sock from the pump, now it spins and drains but will not agitate. No sounds or anything in the agitating phase, just the ticking of the timer.
does this mean something may be stuck between the wash tub part and the 'outer tub'? What's the best way to test the timer, all other cycles work fine.
Thanks again.
does this mean something may be stuck between the wash tub part and the 'outer tub'? What's the best way to test the timer, all other cycles work fine.
Thanks again.
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It's a whirlpool top load and 17 years
old. I checked the lid switch, water level switch and they
are okay. I replaced the motor coupling. The old one was chewed up and
crumbling. When I put everything back together and turned
it on to check if it would spin, I heard a buzzing sound and after a few minutes
there was a burning smell. What should I check to diagnose
this problem? would help to have make or model numbers to show age of machine
This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.
First, see the Sears parts site for your washer: http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action
Enter your model number (###.######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.
This problem points to a couple of places:
The first unfortunately is the motor. Kenmore / Whirlpool top load direct drive washers use a reversing motor.
When in agitate mode, the motor turn one way, When in spin mode it turns the other way for draining and spinning.
I'd check the following first before assuming that it's the motor though.
First, I'd pull the agitators and check for worn or damaged splines inside the agitator or on the agitator shaft.
Following is a description of how to take them out.
Tearing apart the transmission is a bit messy but if the problem is the spring or agitate cams, it's a lot less expensive to fix than a $170 transmission.
Remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.
Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (15 oz.) of 80-90 weight oil.
Remove the transmission cover and drain the oil.
Pull off the spin pinion.
Carefully remove the clip that holds the main Spin Gear on and remove it.
Push down on the agitate spring and remove the spring clip. Note where is attaches to the main shaft.
Check the spring, Agitate Cams and the cams in the Neutral Drain Assembly.
Re-assembly is obviously the reverse of taking it apart.
If you're reasonably comfortable with tools you can fix it yourself.
When we had a problem with ours, we ended up spending less than $30 replacing the agitate cams, neutral drain assembly and oil instead of $170 for a transmission. It was worth fixing.
As an aside, tearing the washer apart will give you the opportunity to completely clean it.
Tearing apart the transmission is a bit messy but if the problem is the spring or agitate cams, it's a lot less expensive to
fix than a $170 transmission.
Remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.
Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (15 oz.) of 80-90 weight oil.
Remove the transmission cover and drain the oil.
Pull off the spin pinion.
Carefully remove the clip that holds the main Spin Gear on and remove it.
Push down on the agitate spring and remove the spring clip. Note where is attaches to the main shaft.
Check the spring, Agitate Cams and the cams in the Neutral Drain Assembly.
Re-assembly is obviously the reverse of taking it apart.
If you're reasonably comfortable with tools you can fix it yourself.
When we had a problem with ours, we ended up spending less than $30 replacing the agitate cams, neutral drain assembly and oil instead of $170 for a transmission. It was worth fixing.
As an aside, tearing the washer apart will give you the opportunity to completely clean it..
As to the age of the washer. Whirlpool / Kenmore washers use a part of the serial number to determine the year the washer was made..
Assuming that this is a basic Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain washer, the agitator is supposed to stop during the spin cycle.
Please see the following Whirlpool installation and service manual for top load machines.
If you look at the description of how the transmission works, there is an "Agitate Cam" that lifts the "Agitate Gear" out of contact with the main "Agitate Rack" when the machine goes into spin mode
I have found though that because of the friction between the agitate gear and main drive shaft, including the oil itself, the agitator may move while in spin mode.
This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.
First, see the Sears parts site for your washer: http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action
Enter your model number and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.
Following is the Whirlpool installation and maintenance PDF on how top load, direct drive washers work with a troubleshooting section.
Following is the Whirlpool parts list for commercial top load, direct drive washers although the consumer washers are basically the same.
The problem seems to point to the Agitate Cams in the transmission that raise and lower the Agitate gear on the main transmission shaft. These are relatively inexpensive to replace.
I'd also check the splines on the main agitator shaft and the two pronged "washer" on top of it.
Many washer brands use a reversing motor. For agitation the motor runs in one direction, for spinning and draining, the other. It's possible for a motor to burn out in one direction and continue to operate in the other. If this happens, you need to replace the entire motor.
does this mean something may be stuck between the wash tub part and the 'outer tub'? What's the best way to test the timer, all other cycles work fine.
Thanks again.
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