Have installed SATA drive, installed operating system and installed an IDE drive (only contains data) as second drive. System will not start up with IDE drive connected. Looked at BIOS and window which shows the drives shows the SATA as the 3rd IDE drive and all information is locked (no + or - to change settings) I would like to have the SATA as my operating system drive and IDE as data storage backup.

Have you checked to see if these hardrives have a jumper on master or slave? It's a small white or black piece that connects two pins in the hard drive. Sata drives won't have pins or jumpers

also consider plugging the drive into an IDE to USB cable and plug into a system with a different operating system. Or look up a program called r studio. it's one of the better file recovery software out there. It also recovers in "original file/older structure" which you are trying to do.

is your machine using sata drives or older IDE drives?

SATA stands for Serial ATA and describes the interface used to connect to your PC. Many older PCs have ATA or UDMA, an IDE type interface. Many newer PCs have a SATA interface. You can buy and add a SATA interface card if no additional SATA ports are available on your system. SATA drives have a small data connector and a larger power connector. Each drive has it's own SATA data cable, no daisey-chaining like IDE drives did. Since there is no daisey-chain there are no jumpers that need setting for Master and Slave.

A) If you have the Restoration Disk (CD), or a full installation disk of the Windows operating system, the answer is yes.

B) If you have an image backup program, such as Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, or DriveImage XML, for example, the answer is yes.

The Windows operating system is copied over to the new harddrive.

It would be easier, and more cost effective to just install the 160GB harddrive as a Slave drive.

I don't know if your harddrive is an IDE (PATA) unit, or a SATA unit.

Here is more information on installing either an IDE harddrive, or a SATA harddrive, as a Slave drive in a desktop computer,

1) IDE {PATA} harddrive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E

1A) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTOgt3UiB4


2) SATA harddrive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCgFYNLzn18&NR=1

IDE, also known as PATA is the older style of technology.
SATA is the newer style.

(Parallel ATA
Serial ATA )

The beauty of SATA is not only the faster speed, but if you connect a SATA cable (Data cable) to ANY SATA connector on the motherboard, BIOS will find the device.

BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) will find the harddrive with the operating system on it, first.
Then it will recognize that you have a second SATA harddrive also.

(BIOS looks at both SATA harddrives.
When it finds the one with the operating system on it, BIOS will disregard the other SATA harddrive)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScqDZZeFK9I

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Windows will see both hard disks when Windows opens up.
For IDE/PATA hard drives the boot hard disk (C drive) must contain the Windows operating system and it must be jumpered as the Master drive. The other hard drive must be jumpered as a Slave drive if it is on the same data cable as the Master drive.
After Windows has been installed and this Slave drive has been partitioned and formatted Windows will see this hard drive as D: Drive which can be used as data storage etc.
If you have SATA hard drives you need to connect each SATA hard drive on its own SATA cable/controller.

I'LL TELL YOU UPFRONT i HAVE ONLY INSTALLED SATA ON A NEW SYSTEM SO MY ANSWER MAY NOT BE CORRECT IN ALL SITUATIONS
Question is vague. Are you replacing a drive or building a new system? SATA drives have a dedicated plug on the Mother Board. Of course you already know you can't replace an IDE with a SATA without an adapter (Ebay has them for about $8) or the Bios is incompatible. The power is on the Motherboard and does not have a connector from the power supply like an IDE has.

Boot failure will be displayed if the computer cannot find the operating system on a bootable device.
Your hard drive could be defective or the computer bios is not setup to locate the drive due to lost information from a possible dead backup battery or a power surge. To resolve the problem you need to find out what type of hard drive you have for example MFM, RLL, SCSI, IDE, ATA, PATA, Enhanced IDE or SATA. With a SATA drive, you do not have to worry about jumper settings, which are the newest of the hard drive interfaces. You need to start your computer and read the system prompts to enter the set up bios (example: Press Del to enter System Bios). Once you are in the system bios you need to select boot devices. Make sure the drive with your operating system is selected in the boot devices. If this will not work then you may need to reinstall the Operating System. I would buy a new drive if you can afford it and install the operating on the new drive so you may be able to recover some of the data. If you do not care about the data you can reinstall the Operating System on the current drive. If your drive is not recognized during the installation then the drive is most likely bad. If you reinstall the Operating System on the new drive then you can install the current drive as a second drive to recover previous data. If you do not have a SATA drive you will need to change the jumper settings to operate as a slave drive. If the data from the old drive is not accessible when install with the correct jumper setting then the drive will need to be repaired or discarded.

Once you reset the bios everything goes to manufactures default settings. You will need to make some changes within the bios. You'll need the help of the manual. See page 3-20.
If your operating system is loaded on to the ATA IDE drive make sure you set bios settings as follows:
Connect the ATA IDE to MB primary master IDE port.
Connect the ATA SATA drive to the MB's first SATA port.

ATA Configuration
Set as, [P-ATA+S-ATA]
S-ATA Keep [Enabled] Set to [Yes] This enables the SATA controller.
P-ATA Keep [Enabled] Set to [Yes] This enables the IDE controller.
On-chip IDE configuration, "ATA Configuration = [P-ATA+S-ATA]".
Next go to Boot menu. Make sure the ATA IDE drive is chosen as boot device three.
First boot device [Floppy] (If you have a floppy disk drive connected.)
Second boot device would be [DVD/CD-ROM] drive. This should be connected to the MB's secondary IDE port & the DVD/CD-ROM drives Master/Slave jumper, set to Master.
Third boot device [ATA IDE drive]
If your boot drive is the SATA drive than set: third boot device to the SATA drive.
(Hard disk drive with operating system loaded on it).
Save your changes & exit the bios.
Keep in mind all ATA SATA drives are seen as Master drives. SATA drives are seen by the SATA controller & in order by their connection to the SATA port number.
Save & exit the bios. The system will auto restart. Windows should start.

Dear,

You have to make IDE drive as slave. For this put the jumper to slave in IDE drive. Possibility of CMOS battery is rare, but you can confirm it by checking your system time in BIOS. If system time is ok then there is no problem in CMOS battery and you need not to replace it.

Thanks,
Rakesh Kumar

- sata has no master
- i presume u want the OS on the ide drive, and not just that the ide drive to have "C" assigned to it! So : 1 - U can copy the data form the ide to the sata, and then reinstall the OS on the ide (note: the OS will start up a bit slower do to the slower ide drive !!!) and so it will become the C drive ! And u can assign to the sata what ever letter u wish...

2- if u don't want to reinstall the os u can do a copy of the os and put it on the ide drive(not just copy the files !! it will not work!!!). U cold use clonezilla for example... But probably the first method wold be safer ....

Hi Conor, every SATA drive is a master drive. With that in mind you're SATA must have windows installed on it. Please disconnect the data cable & power cable's from the IDE drives.
(Do not reconnect either IDE untill you have finished).
Install windows on the SATA drive. Install all the needed drivers, than update windows. When finished Check the pin setting on the IDE drives. Set one as the "master with a slave" & the other as the slave. Than you can add both into the system. If you had windows on one of the IDE's just delete the root files on that drive so it does not conflict with the new windows on the SATA drive. Go in the bios make sure you have the SATA drive as the boot drive & not either of the IDE drives. If the system still shuts down after all this, try replacing the data cable for the IDE drives (Both should be on the same data cable). Swap the power connector from the CD-ROM drive to the IDE.
Next, if you're system still shuts down after adding either of the IDE drives, than swap the ports. Connect the CD-ROM to the primary IDE port on the board & the IDE hard drive to the IDE slave port. (This is for testing only). Double check all power connections from the power supply to the motherboard. Leave the case opened. Look at the board when booted. Watch for the the case LED's lighting up & flashing cr-rom's LED flashes, look at the CPU fan. Make sure all fan's are running & listen for the drives running.
Let me know if anything changed or not. Post any thing odd or if any thing did or didn't work & I'll go from there. Everything is a test & error soulation. One change at a time.

Mike