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I just when and got my battery recharged to 100 percent. could i still have a bad cell in the battery.

  • weltondemon Nov 28, 2009

    The battery was brought in '07, and i drive a lot within the city. stop and go. stop and go type driving. Also I just got my starter rebuilt, when i should have replace or got rebuilt before winter.

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After charging it's best to have it load tested (200amp load applied for about 15 seconds...volts should not drop below 9.5 during loading and should return to 12v when load is removed) If it fails that test, replace it.
I have seen batteries that will take a charge but will fail loading due to an internal connection.breakdown

  • Anonymous Nov 28, 2009

    I guess best question I can ask is : Are you having a problem starting? If the battery has passed a load test, and the starter is about two years old they should be good, however, some will last longer and some will fall short of any expected service life. Best to chaqrge battery with a good automatic charger about once a month. Worst thing for it isn't how you drive, but how long you listern to radio with engine off or leave doors open! Your alternator is not designed to replace lost voltage capacity, it's purpose is to maintain the state of charge in the battery (like keeping a half full bucket half full) so if you lower the voltage by leaving stuff on, the alternator will "cover" part of that but never fully return it to full charge. I generally get seven years from a five yr battery by doing as I outlined (no guarantee) so I know it does help.
    Remember...Maintain battery by charging, undercharged battery works the alternator harder and steals horsepower and shortens alt life, an undercharged battery causes an "arc" when relays are operated (especially for starter) and at armature brushes, that eventually burn or overheat them, shortening electrical component life. So if you have no problems now, just keep it in good shape and you should be good for winter.


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