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I have a Huskystar C10. I cannot adjust the tension properly since having a sewing jam-up while I was satin stitching. The top thread leaves loops on the bottom on the fabric and the bobbin (which is a top loader) bounces while the machine sews. Can you help me?

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  • sharon22 Aug 08, 2009

    Thanks for your tips. I have rethreaded everything already. I've changed the bobbin and changed the needle. The satin stitching I was referring to was a zig-zag stitch sewn close together to create a finished edge on applique. I'm pretty sure the top thread is too tight and that's what's causes the bobbin to "bounce" as it sews and what causes the tension problems. Any suggestions on how to adjust that (other than the tension knob)?

  • sharon22 Aug 08, 2009

    I have rethreaded the machine, changed the bobbin, changed the needle, even "flossed" the tension discs, nothing I do seems to make any difference. I would take it to a Service Technician but I live in Bolivia and that would mean a trip to North America. Any suggestions would be helpful.
    I do have a service manual for my machine.

  • sharon22 Aug 08, 2009

    Does anyone have any suggestions that include a little more than just cleaning out all the little parts? I've done that a couple of times and I've tried adjusting the internal tension on the upper thread. Is there something that can be causing this problem in the bottom part of the machine?

  • sharon22 Aug 09, 2009

    Sorry to have reposted this. I looked everywhere for some way to answer your question. Anyway, with the new post, came different options. I've tried to be as specific as possible.
    I have a Huskystar C10. It's an electronic Husqvarna machine. It is a new machine and was working very well before I brought it to Bolivia. While sewing a tight zig zag stitch, there was a thread jam-up. I gently eased everything out, cleaned up the threads etc, rethreaded everything and could not from that point on, get the machine to sew with proper tension. I have taken off the needle plate at the bottom, removed the bobbin case, cleaned everything out (lint etc.) I have changed the needle, twice and I have used dental floss on the tension discs to be sure that there was no fuzz or lint. My mother was able to get me the service manual and I have taken the front panel off of the machine to try to adjust the upper thread tension knob on the inside of the machine. I will try to describe exactly what it is still doing. The machine will sew a couple of stiches correctly and then the top thread somehow catches on the bobbin, as the needle goes up. (Sometimes the thread is so tight that it stops the needle from going up.) The bobbin bounces in the bobbin case and the result is a loop of the top thread on the underside of the fabric. As I watch the top thread run over the bobbin case it seems to get really tight and then grab the front part of the bobbin case. This, of course, messes up the stitch and causes the tension problems, but I have no idea how to fix it. I assumed that it was a problem with the upper thread tension. I have not adjusted anything else on the machine although I have read in the manual how to adjust the bobbin tension. At this point, the only thing that I have changed is the upper tension. I hope that this explains the problem a little more clearly. I don't have the option of taking it to a technician since we are in South America. Thanks for taking the time to try to figure this out

  • sharon22 Aug 09, 2009

    I've posted the details, hope you can come up with some ideas.
    Thanks.

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There is one way out. Give the sewing m/c a thorough servicing job, Clear all the pieces of cloth/fabric/threads, etc Remove the bobbin and load afresh. Clear out the toothed sliders which pulls the cloth while stitching. the thread being used for stitching passes a sort of loop, the tension being controlled by how much the pressure the spring can exert such that depending on the material being stitched. Specially after stitching satin, which is tricky material to stitch in a sewing m/c since the cloth is slippery. Also clear sewing jam and the metal teeth like rack which pushes the cloth for the next stitch to start. This area if cleaned up properly and a little bit of oiling on the spring loader and the spindle assembly which moves up & down...............................sudeep

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    Sudeep Chatterjee Aug 09, 2009

    When I suggested cleaning, I assumed you would clean out the machinery underneath too. Well lift the sewing machine and it will open like a book cover since the sewing machine is attached to the bottom but with hinge joints enabling one to approach the main working parts. The hole through which the needle juts in, there is circular pice which looks like a propellor but off course its not. I forget what the name is but when the sewing machine is stitching this prop rotates clockwise-anticlockwise motion. If anything needs a proper cleaning it is the circular bit which swings in the above manner. Look for accumulation of lint, thread and clean it well. The bottom thread is mounted in its casing at the center of this prop.
    Now anyhing which obstructs the rotation of the prop, will resut in bad stiching leaving small loops on the underside of the sticthed material, also might skip a few stitches and again join tge stitching. This rotation should be completely unhindered otherwise it will affect the quality of the stitching. One can also oil the points which holds or support movement of other parts of the machine. Unless this equipment on the underside of the sewing machine is cleaned and oiled you will continue to fase problems stitching any type of material. I hope this helps ............................sodeep


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    Sudeep Chatterjee Aug 09, 2009

    Its just a shot in the dark, but try to change the stitching gap or the size of the stitch. Try increasing/decreasing it and observe if there is a better result, then try to tinker with this adjuster till you get the stitch as you intended..........................sodeep

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    Sudeep Chatterjee Aug 09, 2009

    Now you will have to decrease the tension on the bobbin plus oil all the points where its got any kind of bearing or ending of the cam & spindles. The toothed rack can also be adjusted such that the cloth is pulled smoothly. Now that you've watched it in motion decrease the length of travel by adjusting the needle by appropriate number of turns the threaded spindle just next to the needle holder at the top. If stitching becomes easier by reducing/increasing the length of travel of the needle holder, by trial & error method. This is the critical part 'cos that will decide how much time it gets to finish one cycle will be made equal to the amount of thread released from the bobbin per stroke, thus decreasing the chance of leaving a loop while stitching. Hope this helps.........................................sodeep

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Please explain exactly what it is doing in detail.

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Hello there, try using a smaller needle size for the satin cloth. Also try rethreading everything.

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Top thread leaving loops on the bottom of the fabric.

what you describe is an indication of the needle top thread tension being too loose
make sure that the thread is between the pressure plates of the tensioner and not behind it
next remove the plates around the base at the bit the moves the material through so that you can see when the needle is approaching the bobbin hook
when the needle is at the bottom of the movement, that bobbin hook should be almost at the eye of the needle .
that is called needle position timing
if the hook is not near the eye of the needle or past it then you will have to have the machine serviced and that timing corrected
check the way the need is installed
the cut away bit should be facing the hook and the small groove is where the thread sits so that it does not jam as it goes through the material
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The thread for the top needle just sews and loops onto the lower thread

I think you are saying that there is a loop showing on the bottom of the lower thread stitch. If the lower stitch looks correct and not bunching, you will need to change the tension on the upper stitch. Make sure that your threads are firmly inserted within the discs also before adjusting the tension. It doesn't take much to change the tension so take it slowly.
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Adjust the tension

Load your sewing machine with one color on top, threaded through the needle. Load the second color thread into the bobbin and thread.


Fold the scrap fabric in half, and sew a straight stitch at least 2 inches long. Look closely at the seam. If you see loops of the bottom color thread on top of the fabric, proceed to Step 3. If you see loops of the top color thread on the bottom of the fabric, proceed to step 4.


Loosen the top tension. Since the top tension is so tight, it is pulling the bottom thread up through the fabric. Loosen the top tension by turning the numbered knob on the front of the sewing machine counterclockwise by one number.


Tighten the top tension. Since the top tension is too loose, the bottom thread is pulling the top thread down through the fabric. Tighten the top tension by turning the numbered knob on the front of the sewing machine clockwise by one number.


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please try this simple tips:

Good day!

A sewing machine operator can often help themselves when their machine does not operate properly.
Here are some simple instructions, which if properly used can save time and mechanics service calls.
TROUBLE;UPPER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
This could be trouble;================Do this;
1.Top tension to tight================loosen tension 1 turn
2.Machine improperly threaded=========check threading
3.Thread twisted on guide post========"
4.Thread twisted out of tension======="
5.Take up spring bent or broken=======Check action of spring
6.Thread jumped off pull off finger===Check threading
7.Needle bent or burred===============new needle
8.Bad cone of thread==================try another cone
TROUBLE;LOWER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
1.Bobbin tensionspring to tight=======Loosen tension slightly
2.Bobbin threaded wrong===============check threading
3.Bobbin wound to tight or uneven=====try new bobbin
4.lint or thread on bobbin case=======clean inside case
5.Lint or thread inside hook==========clean inside hook
6.Bobbin case nicked bent or burred===check/change case
TROUBLE;MACHINE STARTED SKIPPING STITCHES;
1.Needle bent or burred===============change
2.Needle set in crooked===============Check
3.Thread jumped off take up spring====check threading
4.Thread jumped off pull off finger===check threading
TROUBLE STITCHES SHOWING LOOPS;
1.Forming loops on top of cloth=======Tighten bobbin tension
======================================or loosen top tension.
2.forming loops on bottom of cloth====Tighten top tension
3.Bobbin placed in case incorrectly===remove and replace
4.Bobbin thread slipped from under====check threading of
tension===============================bobbin case
5.Lint or thread in top tension=======clean between tension discs


Thank you and good luck.
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