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Posted on Jan 30, 2009

During start Automatic gear does not change

During the Start Automatic gear does not change from Park position to any other position. I can operate the gear by relising the mechanical lock and moving the gear to position N (by inserting the key in to the hole infront of the gear handle). The car drives fine with no other problems. When I stop the car I can move the gear to the park position. Once I move the gear to Park position I can not move the gear, it locks.

Look forward to hear from you

Best regards
Halil

  • hyorganci Feb 03, 2009

    The brake switch was found to be faulty. Thanks for your help. the solution was spot on.

  • Anonymous Mar 25, 2014

    I started my car an it got stuck in starting making starter stoll position an made noises when gears chang

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Sounds like a brake switch failure. located under the brake pedal and is fairly simple to change out.

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