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Engine misfire on cilynders 2&3. I r&r coil pack and same problem. I have good compression at about 160psi, I checked injectors and spark plugs as well, all good, I need help. Possibly ignition module?

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Hello and welcome. if this is almost always the ignition control module that sets on top off the coil pack. I have seen several of these do this. here is a picture of the control moduleEngine misfire on cilynders 2&3. - mrtechwrench.gif

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Cylinders 2, 4, 6

It just can't do that. No way to shut down one side of an engine.
Misfires are caused by lack of fuel, spark, or compression. One of the three is missing. One whole side-that rules out spark. Coil pack design just won't affect one side of the engine. That leaves fuel or compression. Some multi-port injection systems are so-called "bank fired" -that is, one side or bank of the engine will pulse the injectors at the same time, first one bank, then the other. But in the early '90's, some cars came out with sequential fuel injection, which pulses the injectors individually, following the firing order of the cylinders, more precise fuel metering that way. I would have thought that an Avalon would be sequential injection, but you could check. Anyway, you need to check if the injectors are working on 2, 4, & 6. The power wire to all injector systems is a single wire that is spliced to each injector. Conceivably, the splice to that bank or side may have broken. With key on, every injector should have voltage at the injector connector. Only two wires to each injector- a power wire and a ground wire. If no power on 2, 4, or 6-that is probably it. (On bank fired injection, all three ground wires on each side splice together before the ground wire goes into the computer. With sequential, each injector ground wire goes to the computer separately.)
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I check sparkflug while engine in idle, I try to take out sparkflug 01 and the idle sounds better also no. 04 but the sparkflug 02 , 03 the idle is more high to low

That sounds like your coil pack. The coil to number 1 & 4 may be bad. The other coil, to number 2 & 3 cylinder is good and working.
If it's not the coil, you may have to check the wiring to the coil pack-something is amiss. You could swap the coils around and see if the misfire follows your switch to 2 and 3...
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Hi, the first step I recommend is to check for spark. You can do this by starting the car and then carefully pulling up the boot to the #1 ignition wire at the coil. If sparks are jumping inside the boot, you have spark and the ignition system is working.
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1. Ignition: If there is no spark, shut of the engine and use an ohmmeter to check the impedance of the coil. Take the boot off, and connect your ohmmeter from the coil terminal to the engine ground. The resistance should be around 10-20 kohms. If not, replace the coil. If yes, the problem is the ignition module under the coil.

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Note: I will provide repair steps once the troubleshooting is complete and the problem identified.
Also, if you do not have a multimeter, you can get one for $10-20 at radio shack or even Walmart. It will save you money overall--or maybe you have a friend that you could borrow a meter from.

2. Injector: The next easiest test to run is to see if the injector solenoid is clicking. You can do this by holding a long screwdriver to the injector and hold the other end of the screwdriver to your ear. With the engine running, you should hear the injector clicking. If not, you have a bad injector or a wiring problem. To determine whether the problem is the injector or the wiring, pull the connector off the injector and measure the AC voltage in the connector with the engine running. The voltage should be 1-2 volts or similar to that voltage of any other injector connector.
If the voltage is good, but the injector is not clicking, replace the injector.

3. Valves/compression: the last possible reason for a misfire is a lack of compression. The intake valve must open to accept a fuel/air charge, and both valves must be closed for the cylinder to fire. Sometimes an exhaust valve will burn and not hold compression. A blown head gasket can also cause this problem. The test we use to check the valves is a compression test. You can borrow or purchase a compression tester if you get to this point. Remove a few of the spark plugs including the cylinder that is misfiring. Screw the compression tester into the spark plug hole and crank the engine for a few revolutions. Record the pressure on the gauge, release the pressure, and go on to the next cylinder. If the pressure is much lower on any cylinder as compared to the highest cylinder, the cylinder head will have to be removed to correct the issue.

Please let me know the results of your troubleshooting and feel free to ask questions as you go.
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