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Anonymous Posted on Jul 25, 2013

Expert tepee suspension system

Wont lower or raise any ideas what could be wrong fault code c1169 at garage unsure if its sensor or wiring problem

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 11, 2009

SOURCE: 1999 Eldorado suspension leveling system

good evening and welcome to fixya
your problem has to do with the autoride. start by checking to make sure that the auto level rod is not broke and that the compressor is still working. you can start by checking the fuses and relays that run this unit. thank you and let me know what you come up with so i can help you if you still need it.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 20, 2009

SOURCE: 2001 audi allroad air suspension wont lower

I had the same problem, I went to my mechanic and they said that the system has shut itself off due to a problem the computer has seen, in my case it was a selinoid in the pump which released air had failed and had to be replaced, unfortonatly you can not buy the selinoid seperately and would have to replace the entire pump, I was lucky though because he has a spare pump that he pulled off another car which was blown but the selinoid was still good. It took them about 4 hours to find the problem but that was my experiance. DO NOT TAKE IT TO THE DEALER they will charge you for 4 new air bags and a new pump they quoted me almost 5000 Dollers and i got mine fixed for $500

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 27, 2009

SOURCE: My 2001 S500 Suspension would lowers the cas when

CHECK THE FUSES FIRST. IF THEY ARE ALL INTACT, THEM PERHAPS THE COMPRESSOR RESPONSIBLE FOR LIFTING THE CAR, HAS FAILED. THE VEHICLE LOWERED AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF AN AIR LEAK SOMEWHERE IN THE SUSPENSION. SOMETIMES THESE REPAIRS CAN BE COSTLY, SO SHOP AROUND AND GET AN ESTIMATE IN WRITING BEFORE THE JOB IS STARTED. I HOPE THIS HELPS. THANKS FOR USING FIX-YA AND FOR AN HONEST RATING. BEST OF LUCK. FEEL FREE TO KEEP ME POSTED.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 07, 2009

SOURCE: 2005 sts code states service suspension and service wheel sensors

So does my 2006 STS....!
On the Tire monitoring subject.... The next time it tells you to service it, scroll through and see if the system is reporting a tire pressure for each tire, if it is, and there is not all dashes for one of the tires, there is nothing to worry about.
Note.... aftermarket rims, tire sealants and tire rotations done without "relearning wheel sensor positions", (page 5-67 in your manual), can cause a "DTC" (Diagnostic Trouble Code) to display and tell you to service it.
On the stability system, I have to do some more digging....

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 19, 2009

SOURCE: air suspension system not raising rear suspension.

switch is on the rear suspension , it senses ride height .

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  • Ride is improved by using an air type spring (the soft ride is inherent).
  • Handling is improved by maintaining constant vehicle attitude.
The system consists of unique rear air springs, the air compressor, air lines, air spring solenoids, height sensor, air suspension control module, attachments and associated signals derived from both driver and road inputs. With these components and signals, the air suspension control module commands changes in vehicle height that are necessary for the load leveling features.
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Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Restricted suspension movement
  • Excessive vehicle load
  • Cut, severed or crimped air line(s)
  • Unmounted height sensor
  • Damaged air spring(s)
  • Open fuses:
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    • Battery junction box (BJB) Fuse 109 (50A)
  • Loose, corroded or disconnected connectors
  • Air suspension switch is in the OFF position
  • Damaged solenoid valve(s)


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The air suspension system is designed to improve ride, handling and general vehicle performance for static, on-road and off-road driving conditions:
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