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Anonymous Posted on Mar 05, 2009

No power no power band

2003 kx250 i think the power valves are not opening. 1/2 to full throttle no power, has a deeper sound, then sometimes it works fine for a few minutes than back to the problem

  • Anonymous Mar 26, 2009

    bottom end was rebuilt on kx250 afterwards no power and no power band. Does it just need a top end rebuild perhaps?

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Hi,
I think your diagnosis is correct.
It sounds to me that the cenrifugal clutch is not working. This is the device that makes the power valve open and close.
It is situated behind the water pump, and is a non-service item.
It works in a similar way to the automatic clutch on a scooter
Enjoy your ride !
Jon

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