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Posted on Feb 09, 2011

I have an eighty gallon tank and can only get two quick showers out of it. I pull the relief valve open and got hot water. then i opened the drain valve at the bottom and got cold water. does this mean the lower element is out?

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Suspects are lower element -or- either upper or lower thermostat.
If water heater has some hot water, then upper element is good, and electricity and circuit breaker to water heater are good.
Dual element tank is 240Volts.

Good news is tank-type electric water heater is fully repairable by homeowner using generic parts from hardware or home center:
Links below explain water heater repairs with step-by-step photos
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-element-and-clean-sediment-out-of-electric-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-water-heater-thermostat-works.html

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Also take advantage of fixya phone service.
For a price, expert speaks with you over phone while you work on water heater or any do-it-yourself project.
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