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I have a GE gas dryer and the ignitor is a WE4X750. I tested the ohms and I get no resistance. Does that indicate it is bad for sure?

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  • mwietrick Oct 19, 2009

    I replaced the ignitor with a new one and i still have no heat. On my dryer model, I have to remove the entire front panel with controls to access and see the gas valves and ignitors on the lower left side of the dryer. The front of the dryer drum is unsupported while the front panel is removed and it would be easier to diagnose what is not working if I could see it in action. Is there a way to run the machine with the front panel removed?

    Matthew

  • mwietrick Oct 19, 2009

    I'll give it a try tonight when I get home. Thank you very much for posting comments and trying to help - I appreciate it.

  • mwietrick Nov 24, 2009

    Sorry it took me so long to check this out. My wife is getting on me to fix this thing. I lifted the top of the dryer up and ran the "cotton" cycle. I watched the lower left side below the drum and about every 35-40 seconds there was a bright orange glow that lasted about 4 seconds and then cycled off. No real heat so I guess the glow is the ignitor cycling on and off. Does this mean the gas valves are not functioning or that the signal is not being sent to open them? How can I check for either condition?

  • mwietrick Nov 30, 2009

    The gas is on, at least the valve is in the open position and I've never closed it. The dryer just stopped heating one day.Is it possible -or- advisable to remove the gas valves (two of them I think) and clean them out? Or do they have to be replaced?

  • mwietrick Dec 17, 2009

    I finally got this thing fixed. I did some more research and norrowed it down to the gas valve coils - everything else seemed to check out. I bought the less expensive Whirlpool coil kit, my dryer is a GE(two coils, one with two prongs and the other with three)and installed them. It was easy. Started up the dryer and the gas fired right away and stayed on!!

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No resistance indicates "short" (completed circuit). NO reading is not necessarily no resistance. Are you using a digital or analog meter? Do you have a reference value from the manufacturer?

If you measured a piece of wire, your digital reading would be zero, your analog reading would be "short" and probably zero (the needle would move to the other end of the scale). If you measure air, (a known burned out light bulb for example) your digital reading would be floating (nothing) while your analog reading would be no movement of the needle on the meter.

I would expect an ignitor would indicate some resistance (that would cause heat).

You probably already know this stuff.

Can you see where the thing is located? I think Id be looking for an orange glow as I turned the device on ... that would indicate it was working.

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  • A Miller Oct 19, 2009

    That is a good question. Driers pose a unique challenge with regard to watching them in action, so to speak s you now well know. I am more familiar with the electric side of both gas and electric driers than the gas side. Having said that, were I in your situation, I think id give it a go, that is try try to run it without the drum in place to see what is going on. It sounds to me like you have done all you could do to this point. At this point - I dont want you to burn your house down - the drier is not working - it may be worth a shot to try to run it.



    Another thought, as you know the tiner is really only a on and off switch. Can you find the proper leads at the timer which turn the drier on and then make sure the thermostat is closed (calling for heat) which would turn on the igniter and then open the gas valve?



    Im trying to help you Matthew - please let me know what you find.

  • A Miller Nov 30, 2009

    The valve is not opening OR the gas is off ...

  • A Miller Nov 30, 2009

    You could crack the joint to verify there is gas in the line. If you do this, be prepared to close it immediately and or/ shut the supply off. Also, check the joint with soapy water after you crack it to make sure you dont have a leak.



    I wouldn't expect you have to "clean" a valve.



    Seems to me your machine is not opening the valve for some reason. It will take a lot of good old fashioned troubble shooting to find the reason. And you may not find it or if you do, not be able to effect repairs economically.



    Still, check it and compare what you find with whaat the repair guy has to say and then share your answer with the crew here at FixYa.com



    thanks for your interest.

  • A Miller Dec 17, 2009

    Matthew,



    I am so delighted you got your dryer to work. Great news ... bet thw Mrs. too, is happy to see it going again.



    Thanks for posting youe question and comments. I appreciate the feedback and the 4 thumgs up :-)



    A

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