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The chain broke from the fan switch and I am having trouble finding the replacement part. I found a zing ear ze 208s at Ace hardware, they said it is universal 3 speed. I couldn't make it work connecting it by matching the color wires to the L,1,2,3 to the same as the original switch). So I took them both apart to see what the difference is. I found that the original switch has a metal wrapped around this part with one small plastic space on it. The zing ear has the oposite a small piece of metal with mostly plastic wrapped around it. I went back on line to see if I could find the right part for the fan. Westinghouse Turbo Swirl 78145 30" wide. After a couple of hours researching, I have come to the conclusion Westinghouse doesn't want me to fix the product! What a shame, to throw away a good (and fairly new product) for a $4 part...... I'll tell ya, if you can help me I'd appreciate it.

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  • wintermelt Nov 18, 2007

    I tried switching the wires, I researched in the internet - the meaning of the wire colors - I found that most suggest that black is the hot wire, which I beleive should be matched to L, my other identical ceiling fans (because I own 3) have orange in the L spot. I tried the black then the orange in the L spot and nothing happens, dead fan! If I could just match that one, I feel I can figure out the rest. (maybe :D) I am going to look for an ohm meter today. Thanks for the info.

  • wintermelt Nov 18, 2007

    One more thing, is there a trick to getting the wires out once they have been put in? I broke one switch trying to push the small metal piece open with a toothpick. I then tried a paper clip, which worked, but I am afraid of breaking another one. By switching wires in & out. It's frustrating working with these switches they are put together so you can't take them apart.

  • wraiye Mar 09, 2008

    my old 3-speed fan switch is gone, it sorta blew itself apart so there is no way for me to know which wires were in which holes for the new switch. how can i find out? on the packaging it's not clear, not thorough

  • Anonymous Jun 05, 2008

    disconnect my switch before i match the colored wires now i cant get fan to work...westinghouse part 77021.

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Zing Ear ze208s switches are NOT all the same - the actual switch wafer on the back varies significantly. Some are single-pole making contact with 1, 2, 3 one at a time, others make contact in combinations. Like L123 for high, L1&2 for medium, and L1&3 for low. The number stamped in the center of the back may indicate the difference. I have one with a "4" that is one-pole at a time, and another that is a "21" and makes multiple contacts at a time.

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  • Anonymous Jul 29, 2011

    http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-...

  • steve tillson Feb 04, 2012

    you ever find a switch that has the multible contacts, thats the type I need?

  • DLewis
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    Lowes has a "L213" switch for around $13. Their part number is Item #: 374708 | Model #: TSS-302

    KensElectronics.com has the actual part for around the same price. ZE-208S6-A09 Aqua/Black Zing Ear ZE-208S6 ceiling fan speed switch (Labeled L-3-1-2 CCW) $8.25

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I had a similar problem. A replacement Westinghouse 3-4 wire 3-speed replacement switch from Home Depot, part # 77020, is a multi-pole that did not work with my ceiling fan. There was no "off" position. Thanks to information provided by dickberr, I found the correct replacement switch, a single pole Zing Ear switch sold under the "Harbor Breeze" name, part # 033905, at Lowe's, at a better price!

  • Choro Aug 15, 2009

    You need(ed) the Westinghouse multi-pole switch with the wires plugged into it the same as on your other identical fans.

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Dickberr is correct. There are different types of three speed/four wire switches. Their markings are identical, so you can't determine which one is in the blister pack at the store (Home Depot in my case). The manufacturer would never think of including a simple schematic of how the switch is wired! If the new switch (Westinghouse 77020) will not turn the fan off, you probably need the single pole triple throw model instead (Lowe's sells it as Harbor Breeze 33905 for under $3). For the record that one connects L+1, L+2, L+3, off in sequence. The Westinghouse 77020 connects L+1+2+3, L+2+3, L+1+3, L+1+2 in sequence. I have no idea which one should turn a fan off. Thanks for the good info, Choro. You find the right one for me. -John

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Any L,1,2,3 switch should work just as long as the size fits into the space available. Check the volyage and amp requirements on the switches to make sure they are the same. A large amp switch doesn't hurt, it's not a fuse. I've change several that way. As far as the wiring, get an cheap ohm meter and check the wire output first for each wire and match it to the original as you pull the switch. You may need to hook it up and switch the wires around to get it right. A little extra work but you'll suceed.

  • Anonymous Nov 19, 2007

    You do not need to take the switch apart if I understand your question. In fact, "don't" take the switch apart. Merely connect the wire ends of the switch and fan wires using "fastons". Sometimes the switch wires are too long, so you will need to cut them shorter (but not too short) and re-strip the wire ends. Some times you need some gentle prodding to get allthe wires and switch to fit in the space available. But try not to cut or damage any wire insulation.

  • Anonymous Nov 19, 2007

    Heres a useful link for you with some additional information.

    http://www.ceiling-fans-n-more.com/ceili...

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My fan is reversing on slowest speed

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As of the date on this post, lowes is selling switches made by Zing Ear. Their website is:
http://www.zingear.com.tw/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/index.html

Click the link for switches. From that page click the link for Pull Chain Switches. You will have to page through to find your switch. Site search function doesn't appear to work. 208D Series is the last page.

If you found this helpfull, please send money to my PayPal account. I have lost a lot of money buying 3 speed fan switches.

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Home Depot has different types of Westinghouse 3 Speed Fan Switches at different Locations. As far as I know for reference, Westinghouse has 3 types Part # 77020,77021,77023.
Here is a Link http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/ecart/catalog/westinghouse-6.html

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Hello,

You can buy this zing ear switch from this website:
https://www.ceilingfanswitch.com/product/zing-ear-ze-208s-e89885/

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I have a regency fan and the switch went out put wires back same way three different switches and cant shut fan off we have a black wire i believe gos to the L but for 123 i dont know if 1 is the purple , brown or grey wires,fan is 20 yrs old 15 maybe

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Westinghouse 77020 is a 3 or 4 wire fan switch that would not work with my 4 wire fan. It would not turn off. Model 77021 is a 4 wire only switch that worked perfectly.

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I swapped fan switches after the chain got pulled out of the original. Being a 3 speed fan I used the ZE-208s. The wire colors were different but I wired the same position as the original and it works just like it's supposed to and took all of 10 minutes to complete.

  • Anonymous Nov 14, 2012

    Where did you find the Switch

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Thanks dickberr for the knowledge. I had the same problem as Choro. Thankyou Choro for the part number 033905 this will solve my problem. My fan would not shut off. Thanks again.

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