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Anonymous Posted on Sep 15, 2009

Electrical wiring code for installation of new plugs and lights in an upstairs addition? I sense that the plugs should be on a seperate 20 amp breaker and the lights on a seperate 15 amp breaker, but I also feel that the 4 plugs and lights could be supplied by the one 15 amp breaker? Any hints based on code?

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    Ya, no problem, your sure welcome.

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