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Thread keeps knotting up under the fabric (bobbin area)

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Could be what is called thread nesting or bird nesting.

The first thing to try is installing a brand new needle in your machine. Then try the following suggestions:

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ALWAYS be in the habit of threading your machine with presser foot up so that while threading between paths 1 and 2 you are certain to have the thread pass throught the tension disks.

This will happen on a $50.00 machine or a $5,000 machine. The thread needs to be regulated.

USE GOOD THREAD!

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