Helo gud day..xr200 honda. i just wana ask if it is possible for a dead battery to gain little charge upon starting the engine?? and after a 5mins started engine i removed thw battery and it is warm to touch- does this mean the battery gain a charge??? sory everyone i dont have the tool kit to measure the voltage... thanksfor the answers

there are these causes, you have no tools and meter and work blind then ask the blind (worse) for help in a text box.
we can not guess what is wrong
So going to shop and let there skills and tools find the CAUSE? not possible.????? or is car dead now/??????
the problem is, engine starter motor is dead(or intermittent)
the causes are this in order of easy checks and then low top higher costs based on Stats;.
1: fuses blown' ( I scan the PCM next but you lack tools!
2: battery is bad , fails load test or is intermittent (is new now)
the battery cables x2 has 4 lugs all 4 not loose or rusty. clean them.
3: alternator is dead, and this makes even new batteries fail.
alternator belt not loose, and IP cluster lamp marked Bat/charge glows. is alt most times.
4: so JUMPcable starts fail? off 2nd car or AAA tow truck JUMPS? hummmm if yes this works the ALT is bad. not starter not battery all learned in test.
5: then engine funs JUMPED , a voltmeter across battery shows 13. to 15vdc, is good ALT below is bad. do not drive with alt dead or car goes dead in 1/2 hour driving.
6: ok will not JUmp start,? that means PRNDL is bad or the starter.
bad see how tests and logic finds the truth.

sorry stop 7 should be 1.
7: shift the gear shift to park and crank fails so now shift to N
step on brake hold brake key on and shift to N.
Now crank in Neutral as your operators guide tells you (book)
if it cranks now the PRNDL switch is bad in the transmission and is not a bad starter. the scan tool told you it was bad but you have no tolls, sad no"?
in a real shop we know hot wire the starter,and this proves it is good or bad in 5 minutes work, but I'm not teaching that. now
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NEXT AND LAST the starter wild guessing and WARNING
do not replace any starter or alternator with battery cables connected
remove NEG lug is best. to of battery.


the car has 3 transmissions,
A/T normal
CVT , horror
and manual box.

the transmission TCM logic controls if the starter can spin.
PRNDL logic Park and Neutral only allow cranking.
if the PRNDL switches fail (be it selector or the sensor feedback)
it will never crank until fixed this.
and only scanning the PCM/TCM can tell you of either of those fails.



short answer,
do step 7 first.
and report.

to not guess a shop has. (just this one problem)

• a meter DMM (volts on dial turned)+ skill sets.
• a battery load tester. $25 tool. (charged first)
• a Scan tool, OBD2 usa, 2008 or newer tool is best. $200
• hand wrenches. (don't ask have a ton here ,vast of all types)
• Jumper cables and even charged batteries at the ready,
• a battery charger to make all that happen

end.
now you guess. hope that pans out and do read my warning.

or jump start car, see IP cluster lamp glow, called
(Battery/gen/charge) glow ,engine running , oops ALT IS DEAD.
Charging System Indicator lamp. honda's words.
if yes ask what to do next.

jump start engine if runs
this lamp must be out.

page 349 glove box guide.
page 271 same manual covers this
"Use neutral if you
need to restart a stalled engine"< it tells how that page, read it

free manual is here

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/NA0909/NA0909OM.PDF

check ground wire for the battery is connected properly
check the positive wire to the starter is tight on the starter
remove and bench test the starter.
make sure that the "new " battery is fully charged and test with a load meter

If the battery is very dead, it can take a while for the dead battery to regain enough charge to start. If you are jump starting from a jump box and not a running vehicle, there may not be enough power available to get the charge to a level that can start the vehicle. Hook up the jumpers cable to a running vehicle and allow 10-20 minutes for the battery to gain some charge. Monitor both batteries carefully during this time and should any unusual amount of heat or if smoke starts to come from either battery, shut everything down and disconnect as quickly (and safely) as possible.

If the battery appears dead when the fault occurs, it probably is the battery (or pos/neg leads) batteries are devious and take pleasure in appearing fully charged. Eliminate further by replacing battery, buy or borrow. Only other explanation is a short to negative on particular day, check starter motor cables. Best of luck.

7 or 8 won't help you, you need 12.5+ volts to start an engine.

If the battery is dead because of age then it's done for. If it's dead beacuse something was left on, stereo, lights, etc. Then yes, jump starting the car will allow the car's alternator to recharge the battery.

Battery is shot, buy a new one (possibly get some warranty credit if it is new enough). I just had a co worker ask me about the same problem today and the dealer replaced his battery in his Jeep. The new maintenance free batteries only last approximately 5 years and they don't give you a heads up like they use to in the old days. I have started cars in the morning and noticed that they start a little hard that day. The next time I try to start it, the battery is dead.

Back in the day, I think we had a little more warning because we had to crank the engines longer. With the electronic ignition and fuel injection the modern engines crank so easy, so we don't put a lot of strain on the batteries and when they go they go.

Im not clear on the stauts of the vehicle. Is it completley dead as if the battery does not work? Can you charge the battery or check to see if the battery is dead. If you have power going and the engine cranks but does not turn over it could be many things. It could simply be a fuse. Check your owners manual for location of your fuse box. Check all the fuses that goes to the starter, engine , fuel pump, anything that may correspond with electricity or starting the engine etc. Did the run , then stop working or did it do soemthing in between? I need a little more info.

Just fully dead? No clicking or anything when trying to start it (key to position START)?

lots of possible issues, but the first place due to a dead battery, or a main battery wire that's broken or simply come loose.

If it's a dead battery, you need to determine if it's just lived its life, or if your alternator is dead. This is what charges your battery while the engine is running.

Try charging your battery overnight using a good commercial battery charger. They're not too expensive and you'll find lots of uses over the years for them anyway. Just look online for 'auto battery charger maintainer', or at your local auto parts retailer.

Once you get your car up and running again, even temporarily, find a 'Batteries Plus' type place. They'll test your electrical system (battery and alternator) for FREE and let you know what's up. They also sell car batteries...

2 things, not enought cold cranking amps, or while you where trying to start the car the brushs inside the starter caused a ark on the armature causing the starter not to be working at 100% option 1 have a drain test done or 2 replace the starter the drain test will show how much amps its taking to spin the starter if its pulling a high amount of amps/votage to spin the start then replace starter

you will need a new altenator and a battery