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Humming from SUB333

I just bought this as a used system, got home, noticed that the power plug has been changed to a 3 prong one with only 2 connections (earth connector has no wires attached). Anyways, turn it on and plug in RCA cables and it hums, tried to plug it into my computer via digital coaxial cable...hums. And now it hums constatnly with no cables attached.

  • felkai_cs Jun 21, 2009

    Thanks for the help, but I took the plug part appart, and there are only 2 wires coming from the sub, a blue and brown and none of them are touching the "earth" connector.

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Replace the plug, they most likely had a ground loop where it was plugged in and cut the common to get rid of noise. Replacement ends are easy to find at Home Depot, Lowes, ACE, etc. Try that first, if you still have an issue, post a comment and I can help you further. Hope this helps

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    Frank Fulton Jun 21, 2009

    Try reversing the wiring they have on the plug that was replaced. If it still hums, touch the input on the sub with your finger and listen for changes in the noise, you may have a loose conection on the input or a bad input board. Hope this helps

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