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Posted on Mar 07, 2009

Engine won"t turn over(crank)

Everything works fine i just need it to start /has th antitheft system /don"t have the key /have a regular key please help

  • parzberger Mar 09, 2009

    Could this won't start problem be related to this model year 1998 grand prix? Are there any service bulltins for this problem from GM?

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I ran into this once also, and I remember that I just disconnected the battery for about half an hour.

Try that if you haven't already.

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