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Lloyd Morley III Posted on Oct 14, 2018
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2004 dodge grand caravan motor swap from a 2004 3.8 to a 2002 3.3 After swapping engines I have no spark except the occasionally backfire. the crank and cam sensors work. I am getting a signal to the computer from both the cam sand crank, I have power to the coil and all injectors and fuel pump. I have bench tested the coil and all three built in coils do work.I put an led test light on an injector and it blinked a few times while cranking the motor and then stopped blinking indicating no more ground pulses from computer.I can not get any pulses from computer to the coil, all wires have been omed out and are fine. while swapping the motor I had to change the starter(04 plug is different from 02)I also changed 02 sensors and the complete motor harness, The 04 had a knock sensor that I had to mount on the block. I was told by the parts store that the computers for the 3.3 and the 3.8 are the same part number.

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Check and clean all earth straps from engine to body

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Test your grounds as the above helpers have stated but test them as you are attempting to start the engine . You need a loaded system test as this stresses the voltage drop of the ground wires .

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See if you can pull some error codes from the ECM first. Could be a number of things causing the problem...

Testimonial: "113 code I believe its because the air tube to the air cleaner was not on will be looking at it tomorrow I do not get spark out of the coil except every 40th time turning it over it pops and acts like its wanting to start and starving for gas. Has fuel pressure and fuel"

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    Ancient god of gaming Oct 14, 2018

    Next test is resistance values on the coil packs. If they're failing it will explain the very weak/intermittent spark situation. Go through and check all of your ground leads as well. Make sure they're clean and all are connected correctly from your engine swap.

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    Lloyd Morley III Oct 14, 2018

    I hooked up power to the coil and grounded it on the bench and had spark on all 3 coil packs.I have a timing light that is always hooked up and it lights up on the occasional fire. next i have been going through testing all the leads going to the computer, so far they are all grounded. Do you know of anything other than the cam & crank sensors that will cause the computer to not send out a pulse to trigger the coil. I even made sure the radiator was full of water, thats what its came to.The ASD relay and fuse are fine as the fuel pump comes on and I have power to the brn/wht wire that goes to the coil and injectors

  • Ancient god of gaming
    Ancient god of gaming Oct 15, 2018

    Verify the parts store claim that the ECM between the 3.3 and 3.8 are the same. If there's a different reading/sensor value it could cause the problem.

  • Lloyd Morley III
    Lloyd Morley III Oct 30, 2018

    Update, the problem is in 2004/2005 they changed the cam gear and the flex-plate. there are two styles for some crazy unknown reason the changed the notch configuration everything 2004/5 need to be the same. SO. I will be changing the flex plate and the cam gear.

  • Anonymous Dec 28, 2018

    I need to advise, I change engine from 2003 to 2007, I have to put the flex plate and cam gear from the older engine or newer ? thanks for help

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  • Posted on Jan 30, 2009

SOURCE: car has no spark or injector pulse(new ecm,crank sensor)

Check the fuse for the injectors, some vehicles have the injectors and coil running on the same circut, at the same time check the fuse for the ignition.

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  • Posted on Aug 22, 2009

SOURCE: 1990 Bonneville SE 3.8L won't start. No hint of

Did you check and see if you have compression,You might be out on you valve timeing?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 26, 2009

SOURCE: i have a 97 dodge caravan 3.3 i have fuel

You have just about replaced everything that would cause a no start situation. Without being able to do any further testing, the only other thing that could cause that is the timing belt, check that, it could be worn, stretched out, and slipping. Good luck.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 19, 2009

SOURCE: 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Start

I would be thinking that there is a good chance that you need to be checking out replacing the computer, if you aren't getting any communication with the proper scan tool then the computer isn't communicating with anything in the vehicle...... I would have guessed first off that the ignition control module might be bad but that is obviously part of the computer also, I would be looking in that direction.

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  • Posted on Mar 05, 2012

SOURCE: 1998 grand maquis crank no start no injector pulse as well as no ignition spark. Have changed crank sensor, cam sensor, fuel pump, pcm, injectors and still no start no voltage to sensors or injectors

Car not starting or turning over indicates towards multiple possibilities. It can be issue with battery or weak battery. But if battery checks out ok, then it can be starter issue or faulty alternator or problem with low fuel pressure or no spark at spark plugs due to dirty spark plugs or faulty ignition coil or injectors getting cracked or dirty and needs to be cleaned.


To confirm the problem, the basic troubleshooting is required.


Click this link below and follow the troubleshooting:------

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/car-starting-issues.html

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This will help.

Thanks.

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