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My low beam headlights will not come on! My daylight running lights work during the day and I have high beams but at night I have nothing but high beams ???

I was thinking there were 2 filiments in the 9006 bulb but I still have no headlights . Someone said that my sensor was bad on the daytime running lights but that makes no sense to me

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Battery positive voltage (B+) is supplied through the LH underhood fuse block LCM/HDLP circuit breaker via CKT 242 (RED) at all times to the following components:
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Headlamp switch


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Lamp control module (LCM)


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Switch of the RH IP fuse block headlamp relay position J

When the headlamp switch is placed in the ON position, battery positive voltage (B+) is supplied via CKT 10 (YEL) to the coil of the headlamp relay position J. The coil is permanently grounded to G201 via CKT 1450 (BLK). The coil is energized and the contacts close providing battery positive voltage (B+) to the headlamp dimmer switch via CKT 1346 (LT BLU). When the headlamp dimmer switch is in the LOW position, battery positive voltage (B+) is supplied via CKT 12 (TAN) to the following components:
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Left low beam headlamp


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Right low beam headlamp The LCM provides battery positive voltage (B+) via CKT 1346 (LT BLU) through the headlamp dimmer switch to the headlamps under the following conditions:
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The ignition switch is in the RUN position.


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The ambient light sensor indicates darkness.

The lamp control module (LCM) monitors the ambient light conditions through the ambient light sensor. The ambient light sensor is a variable resistor whose resistance changes as the surrounding ambient light level changes. As the ambient light decreases, the resistance of the ambient light sensor increases. The LCM measures the resistance across the ambient light sensor and determines whether it is day or night.
Headlamps Inoperative - Low Beams (Oldsmobile)
This is a lengthy diagnostic flow chart .

1

Did you perform the headlights system check?
--
Go to Step 2
Go to Headlight System Check

2

  1. Disconnect the lamp control module (LCM) connector C1.
  2. Connect a DMM from the LCM connector C1 cavity E (RED) to ground.
Is the voltage within the specified range?
10-15V
Go to Step 3 yes
Go to Step 9 no

3

Use a test lamp in order to backprobe the headlamp switch connector from cavity D (RED) to ground.
Does the test lamp light?
--
Go to Step 4
Go to Step 10

4

  1. Remove the headlamp relay position J from the RH IP fuse block.
  2. Connect a DMM from the headlamp relay position J cavity 30 (RED) to ground.
Is the voltage within the specified range?
10-15V
Go to Step 5
Go to Step 11

5

  1. Place the headlamp switch in the HEAD position.
  2. Connect a DMM from the headlamp relay position J cavity 85 (YEL) to ground.
Is the voltage within the specified range?
10-15V
Go to Step 6 yes
Go to Step 12 no

6

Connect a DMM from the headlamp relay position J cavity 30 (RED) to cavity 86 (BLK).
Is the voltage within the specified range?
10-15V
Go to Step 7 yes
Go to Step 14 no

7

Connect a fused jumper from the headlamp relay position J cavity 30 (RED) to cavity 87 (LT BLU).
Do the low beam headlamps light?
--
Go to Step 15 yes
Go to Step 8 no

8

  1. Leave the fused jumper in place.
  2. Use a test lamp in order to backprobe the headlamp dimmer switch connector C202 from cavity C5 (LT BLU) to ground.
Does the test lamp light?
--
Go to Step 17 yes
Go to Step 16 no
Repair the open in CKT 242 (RED) between S201 and the LCM. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

10

Repair the open in CKT 242 (RED) between S201 and the headlamp switch. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

11

Repair the open in CKT 242 (RED) between S201 and the RH IP fuse block. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

12

Inspect for an open in CKT 10 (YEL) between the headlamp switch and the RH IP fuse block. Refer to Testing for Continuity in Wiring Systems.
Is CKT 10 OK?
--
Go to Step 13
Go to Step 19

13

Replace the headlamp switch. Refer to Instrument Cluster Trim Panel Replacement in Instrument Panel, Gauges and Console.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

14

Repair the open in CKT 1450 (BLK) between the RH IP fuse block and S308. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

15

Replace the headlamp relay position J in the RH IP fuse block.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

16

Repair the open in CKT 1346 (LT BLU) between the RH IP fuse block and the headlamp dimmer switch connector C202. Refer to

17

Inspect for an open in the CKT 12 (TAN) wiring between the headlamp dimmer switch connector C202 and S257. Refer to Testing for Continuity in Wiring Systems.
Is CKT 12 OK?
--
Go to Step 18
Go to Step 19

18

Replace the headlamp dimmer switch. Refer to Dimmer Switch Assembly - Disassemble - Off Vehicle and Dimmer Switch Assembly - Assemble - Off Vehicle in Steering and Column-Tilt.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

19

Repair the suspect wiring. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check



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With my Olds, my low beams just blow up. the car is old enough that the high beams should be alright to drive with unless you live in a bigger city, (20,000+)

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Step
Action
Yes
No
Schematic Reference: Headlights/Daytime Running Lights (DRL) Schematics
Connector End View Reference: Lighting Systems Connector End Views or Body Control System Connector End Views in Body Control System.
1
Did you perform the Lighting System Diagnostic System Check?
YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Diagnostic System Check - Lighting Systems
2
Place the headlamp switch in the ON position.
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YES - Does the headlamp system operate normally?
NO - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
Go to Step 3
3
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YES - Go to Step 4
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4
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NO - Go to Step 5
5
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YES - Go to Step 6
NO - Go to Step 9
6
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--
10
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Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 12
--
11
Replace the headlamp switch. Refer to Headlamp Switch Replacement
Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 12
--
12
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Did you correct the condition?
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