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Posted on Jul 19, 2010

Starter relay shorts out when I try to start my bike

My bike will not start. The starter relay shorts out. How do I correct this problem?

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I guess define shorts out....It melts, it blows fuse. I guess the best way to start is to remove relay and find the wire from the relay socket that operates the starter and apply 12volts. with a fused jumper wire. if the fuse blows than there its either a bad starter or a short to ground on the wire going to the starter. if it turns over fine, then there is a problem from the starter switch to the relay or wiring at the relay box.

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