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fubarguzzi Posted on Dec 04, 2012

No spark replaced cdi and pulse generator pulse generator air gap .025 no spark with green/yellow wire going to coil

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2009

SOURCE: 1987 Honda shadow vt1100c no spark at any plug

The voltage on the coils is present except at the instant of firing. The interruption of the voltage is what causes the coil to fire. The cdi box is what causes the voltage interruption.
The interruption is very hard to detect. You are not the first to be stymied by that box. If you have access to an oscilloscope, I think you can see the pulse if it occurs.

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tombones

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  • Posted on Jun 18, 2009

SOURCE: No spark

Check the side stand kill switch if your bike has one. It kills the engine so that you don’t start out with the side stand down. If broken or out of adjustment, it would kill the spark. Check for a broken wire at the side stand switch and coupler. Try moving the kill switch by hand. If that doesn’t work then wire a jumper around the switch to bypass it. Check the fuses. How good is the battery? Try a jump start from your car battery. Is the handlebar kill switch on? Check the operation of the ignition switch and all kill switches with a volt ohmmeter. Install new spark plug.

If that doesn't do it, check the wiring harness. Did a wire come unplugged? Are all wires clean and with solid connections? Any abraded or pinched wires? Is the bike in neutral and the neutral light is lit up? If no neutral light, check the neutral switch and neutral switch wire on center casing. If still no spark, get CDI system and coils checked at the dealers shop. You can screw up a CDI unit checking it yourself.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 06, 2009

SOURCE: cbx 750 1984 4 pin plug going to cdi unit

go to your local honda dealer or a good library and look up the exact make and model of your bike and get the plug wiring code for the cdi,most bikes i know aere different from each other in the cdi wiring,if you get it wrong the first time,you will fry the cdi and they are quite expensive to replace..hope this helps

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 22, 2009

SOURCE: Hi,I've a 98 Fireblade and can't get a spark

Hi and welcome to FixYa,

To my understanding, there are only 2 wires from the ignition pulse generator:

  • yellow - pulsating 0.5 VAC when cranking; and
  • white/yellow - ground.
A couple more of initial checks:
  • IGN +12 on the black/white wires of the ignition coils;
  • IGN +12  on the 3 wires of the engine stop relay other than the red/orange;
  • 0 volts on the red/orange (red/white) wire from the BAS (bank angle sensor).
Good luck and thank you for asking FixYA.

Anonymous

  • 301 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 22, 2009

SOURCE: no spark on spark plug

To check the ignition coil, unplug the wires going to it and check the resistance with an ohm meter. There are two parts of it to check, the primary and secondary circuits. The primary circuit is the low voltage side where the black and green wires from the harness attach. The resistance through this part of the coil should be between 0.16 and 0.19 ohms. Check the secondary side by measuring the resistance between the spark plug lead and the primary side where the green wire was attached. The resistance there should be between 3.69 and 4.51 ohms.
The resistance through the pulse generator, as measured between the two wires that come from it, should be between 468 and 572 ohms.
Generally, the various components of the ignition system are very trouble free. If you're not getting spark to the spark plug, be sure to check all of the bike's wire harness and connectors for corrosion, melted connectors, broken wires, etc.

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Hi I have a Suzuki DT 16 engine 1602 no 207668 I have no spark at the plugs I have put a volt test on the green going into the CDI unit about 3 to 4 volts when pulled what should it be Thanks Mike

With or without remote control??
Disconnect the black/red wire from the CDI, if you have sparks, kill circuit shorted.
No spark: check coils
1 . The two pulser coils are located at 1 80°angles to each other and the
condenser and battery charge coils are also located opposite of each other
under the flywheel.
2. Remove the engine cover.
3. On models equipped with electric starters, disconnect the negative
battery cable.
4. Disconnect the connector and black ground wire.
5. On the No. 1 pulser coil, connect the digital multi meter between the
black/red wire terminal in the connector and the black ground wire. And the
No.2 coil between the white/green wire terminal in the connector and the
black ground wire. Resistance should be 260-380 ohms.
6. On the condenser charge coil, measure the resistance between the
black/red and green wires. Resistance should be between 1 70-250 ohms.
7. If the resistance reading is not within specification, replace the faulty
coil.
8. On the battery charge coil, measure the resistance between the
yellow/red and yellow wires, red and yellow wires (DT1 5MC) or the red and
yellow wires (DT15CE). Resistance should measure between 0.2 and 0.5
ohms.
9. If the resistance reading is not within specification, replace the faulty
coil.
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Why is my 97 Honda 4 wheeler not getting fire

There are three items that are connected together needed to create spark on your 1997 Honda 4-wheeler, regardless of which model it is.
Before we go through a checklist of these three important parts, look for a black wire with a white stripe that runs to the ignition switch and kill button from the CDI box. Disconnect this wire before it gets to the ignition switch and kill button, then check for spark. The most likely cause is a broken kill switch on the handlebar, or shorted ignition switch. Such a condition grounds this wire and kills the spark.
If this test did not restore the spark, continue reading...
Here is what is required to create a spark.

First, the alternator has one coil which generates a high voltage--about 125 Volts AC for the CDI ignitor box.

Second, there is a pulse voltage generated once every revolution of the engine that goes to the CDI box. This pulse causes the CDI to dump its stored energy from the 125 volt line into the primary of the ignition coil.

Third, If the two connections of the wire that runs from the CDI to the Coil are BOTH SHINY clean, the ignition coil will generate a spark.

If any one of these 3 don't happen, the spark will go away. Of these three, item 3 -- one or two tarnished and/or dirty connectors -- is the most likely cause. Just an added resistance of 0.3 Ohms or more in the CDI to Coil connections will cause the ignition to fail. No other wires have to be this clean.

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I have no spark at spark plug I have checked all wiring and seems ok what are the other things to check and how???

1. The on/off button on the right switch housing could be off. Turn it on
2. The on/off button could be faulty.Take apart and use test light to see if the switch is working by turning it on and off and see if power crosses the connection with the switch on
3. The ignition switch could be faulty. Test with test light to see if your getting power to you coil
4. The stator provides the power. Use Ohm meter, black to ground(green), and red to white wire, then red to yellow wire. the reading should be the same for the white and yellow wire. example: 288 and 288
5. The signal generator/pulse pick-up, send the signal to the cdi. Use ohm meter , black to one end of the wire and red to the other end of the wire, should read 000. if anything else the wire is broke.
This wire is usually black with a red stripe or red with a black stripe.
6. The cdi sends signal to the coil, to fire on time and advance and retards the fire as the motor revs and decelerates. Can be tested but not fixed, must buy a used or new one.
7. The coil provides the spark. Easiest to put a working coil on and see if it fires, if it does, then your coil is bad and just needs replaced.
8. Make sure if its on the kickstand that it is in neutral. Its a safety switch.
9.Make sure you have a good battery.Most local auto parts stores load test them for free
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1999 Polaris 500 ATV: Battery went shot. Just use pull start for quite awhile. After awhile, head light and low beam lights quit wokring. Replaced battery, all other lights work except those noted. Riding...

I had a simular problem with my 99 sportsman 500 and it turned out to be my pulse coil somehow became out of alinement. The pulse coil air gap should be between0.016 to 0.040 inch, But I would start by checking the coil it should read 0.3 to 0.5 ohms. Good luck and hope this helps
Mar 23, 2010 • Polaris ATV
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I have a 1984 Honda X200R and it's not getting a

Hi and welcome to FixYa,

On Asian versions of an 84 Honda XR200R, the CDI unit has six wires:
  • blue/yellow - pulse generator
  • black - to ignition coil
  • black/white - engine stop switch;
  • green - ground;
  • green/white - pulse generator
  • black/red - exciter/charging coil at stator.

The ignition coil has 2 wires:
  • green - ground;
  • black - to CDI

Good luck and thank you for asking FixYa.
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Hi,I've a 98 Fireblade and can't get a spark

Hi and welcome to FixYa,

To my understanding, there are only 2 wires from the ignition pulse generator:
  • yellow - pulsating 0.5 VAC when cranking; and
  • white/yellow - ground.
A couple more of initial checks:
  • IGN +12 on the black/white wires of the ignition coils;
  • IGN +12  on the 3 wires of the engine stop relay other than the red/orange;
  • 0 volts on the red/orange (red/white) wire from the BAS (bank angle sensor).
Good luck and thank you for asking FixYA.
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Honda 1992 XR600 miss firing

Hi and welcome to FixYa,

Initially if electrical, disconnect the black/white wire from the engine stop switch, try and observe if problem persists:
  • if yes, then a loose / dirty / faulty engine stop switch;
  • if not check:
  1. 2 connectors to CDI;
  2. connector from pulse generator (black/yellow - blue/white & green/white wires);
  3. black/red wire from exciter coil;
  4. blue/yellow & green (to ground) wires on the ignition coil;
  5. sparkplug wire & cap.
Good luck and thank you for asking FixYa.
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Gsxr 750 no spark how do i test cdi

I've this data from my 1986 engine!

Under the left hand side cover there are 2 2-wire connections. One with a green and a black wire, one with a blue and a yellow wire.
Use an ohmmeter at R x 100 between both wires of a connector to check the pick-up coils: resistance must be between 130 and 180 Ohms.

The values of the ignition coil resistances are:
primary coil : 3-5ohms ( set ohmmeter at R x 1 )
Secundary coil : 25.000 - 45.000 ohms ( set ohmmeter at R x 1.000 )
For a correct measurement ALL leads must be disconnected ( also the spark plug leads )

The CDI cannot be tested with a simple measurement. Suzuki dealers have a special tool to test CDI boxes.
But checking the pick-up coils and ignition coils good will indicate an defective CDI.

The wires on the CDI:
Blue: PU coil 1 ( cyl 1-4 )
Yellow: PU coil 1
Green: PU coil 2 ( cyl 2-3 )
Blue : PU coil 2
Orange/white : +12v ign coil 1-4
White : switched coil negative side ign coil 1-4
Orange/white : +12v ign coil 2-3
Blue/yellow: switched coil negative side ign coil 1-4 ( and signal to tachometer )
Blue/white : ground

Thus, you must have +12V on both Orange/white leads.
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