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Anonymous Posted on Sep 25, 2012

I am trying to install a Pass & Seymour Harmony fan speed control switch. It has 2 red wires and 1 black. I hooked up the power to the red line and the black leading to the wiring for the fan. No matter if the switch is on or off, there is power constantly on both the second red wire and the black wire. I haven't hooked up the fan yet, just checking the switch first. I reversed the power going to the black and the red going to the fan and it's the same result. I checked for power with a little device indicating if power is present. Is there always some power going to all the wires? I thought is was strange since one would think if the switch was off, there would be no power at all. I already returned one switch and the second one is doing the same thing. Is this normal??

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Are you wiring for 3-way or single pole?
In other words, are you using 1 switch (single-pole) or 2 switches (3-way)
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Pass-and-seymour-3-way-3-speed-fan-control.pdf

Before installing device, separate all wires in box and turn power on and then test each wire to bare ground wire >> tester will light up on Hot power source.
Black wire on device is connected to Hot power source.
Red wire on same side of device as black wire is capped off in single pole application.
Red wire on other side of device from black wire goes to the fan motor.
Green wire is ground.

Set fan on highest speed before connecting red wire to fan, and then do not adjust fan speed using pull chain.

I am unsure what volt-amp-testing will show for power output on either red wire, but certainly it will vary as the switch is adjusted to each speed.

Call 800-223-4185 for Legrand tech support.

If you need further help, I’m available over the phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/gene_9f0ef4df2f9897e7

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  • Anonymous Sep 26, 2012

    I connected the black wire to the power source and the red to the fan power. I'm using the switch in a single pole setup so the second red wire is capped. When I turn the switch off, turn the power back on at the panel, there is power running to both of the red wires. I don't know how much power, but I was thinking there shouldn't be any power when the switch is turned off. I tried turning the switch off and on and nothing changes. The fan speed I just left in the lowest setting

  • Anonymous Sep 26, 2012

    Ok, just talked to Legrand tech support and I have an answer. The switch has a power indicator light. Apparently this is a low voltage light, but the power runs through the entire circuit and back to the switch. They said a small amount of power runs to the fan and back completely the circuit. That's why I was getting a reading at the fan location, even when the switch was in the off position. The power should be low voltage and not damage the fan.

  • Gene Haynes Sep 26, 2012

    Thanks for update. The answer from Legrand makes sense since the switch controls fan speed by lowering or raising the power on red line.http://waterheatertimer.org/images/3-spe...

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SOURCE: Voltage on dimmer switch constant

That red wire is hot, it's used in what is called a 'switch loop'. That's where the electrician will bring the hot for the circuit to the light first, then run down to the switch and back with the switched hot for the light. Turn the breaker off!

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  • Posted on Oct 24, 2010

SOURCE: pass and seymour ws 3000 Hooking up to basement I

You're right, green goes to ground.
Black wire connects to Hot wire from breaker box
Red goes to Load (fan, light, motor)

Ok which wire on the switch goes to the Load?
And which goes to Hot from breaker box?

You can test or you can simply hook up the device. If it doesn't work, swap the two wires.
It just won't work until the 2 wires are correct.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Aug 01, 2011

SOURCE: I'm want to install a

More information is needed.
Unknown what wiring device was there before, and which wires were connected to which screw terminals.
Wire color is not as important as knowing what wire is for.
If both white wires were connected together before, then they need to be put back same way.
Separate wires. Turn on power. Test each wire to bare ground. Tester lights up on Hot wire. The Hot wire is usually black.
In back of box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nuts. These are the neutrals.
Test black hot wire to neutrals and tester will light up. If box does not have neutrals, then device cannot be installed to code.

Open following link for illustration of wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-combination-switch-outlet.html

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