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My 2004 ultra classic encounter a failure in charging of my battery and the volt meter does not move pass the 10V mark and the battery indicator light came up after a short ride. send the bike to the workshop and after opening the alternator kit, found out that the magnet inside the alternator kit have fallen apart.may i know what is the main reason for the alternator kit assembly to fall apart in my 2004 ultra classic? The existing voltage regulator is working well. my mechanic suspect the stator assy is faulty so we bought a new set of this stator assy and glue back the magnet on the alternator kit but the problems remain unsolve after we assemble the part back. Do we need to replace the whole alternator kit and the voltage regulator in order to solve the problems? recently i had added on an after market inner primary cover and may be the bolt was not tighten at the correct toruqe. Could this be the main reason for the alternator kit to fall apart? Thanks , Ivan

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U need to discuss it with the maker of the kit--or bring the alt to a specialist--never replace parts till u know the solution--by the way how are the brushes on it-may also want to secure a shop manual for the bike

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No, the magnets are, as you know, simply glued to the rotor housing. The glue sometimes breaks loose and the magnets fall off. I'm surprised that you've run into this as much as you have. I've been working on Harleys for years and have only seen one magnet fall off. I've also seen one rotor that the magnets were not magnetized very well. This has been a problem lately. I'd talk to the dealer that I got the parts from as Harley is aware of the problem. I don't know if they'll make them good or not though.

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  • pikerdude Aug 20, 2011

    Yes, they are only glued and at 71k I started having an issue. It passed all the electrical resistance checks I did but sporadically would indicate via my voltmeter 10V max. Upon opening, the shop found a magnet had slipped over and out, hitting the stator. 2004 FLHTCUI with a 103 kit.

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Ok, let's check the charging system. The battery is easy. Take the battery out of the bike and take it to an automotive parts store. Ask them to load test the battery for you. If the battery is over two years old, it could need replacing.

Once you're sure the battery is good and it is FULLY CHARGED, we can test the rest of the system. You'll need a DVOM (digital volt ohm meter) to check the system. With the battery back in the bike, connect the DVOM across the battery. Red meter lead to the positive terminal of the battery, black meter lead to the negative. Put the meter's function selector switch in DC VOLTS, 20 VOLTS or greater. Start the bike and bring it to a high idle. The meter should read 14.5 - 15.0 volts.

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