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Anonymous Posted on Mar 13, 2015

Hard pulling starter rope

Engine has considerable increased rotation drag and now fails to start. Plug /fuel good /new coil. Pull rope mech ok. Crank bearing?

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You say Pull rope mechanism is ok, How do you know that? Ive's seen them get the rope a little off and gets caught being wedged into a small clearance. Is the rope wearing? I bet if you take it apart put a new nylon rope and some wd-40 in rubbing surfaces including the ratchet area it will be good as new. Crank bearing has to get really bad to effect pull. How is the spark?

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