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I replaced spark plugs after 157,000 miles to increase fuel mileage. After I attached the EI coil/module/cover assembly to the engine, the car would not start. It acts like the plugs are not making contact with the EI coil/module/cover assembly but I installed the boots to the plugs first before attaching the cover assembly. Any suggestions?

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The boots need to be attached to the cover before the cover is installed. Make sure the metal springs are still in the boots. If the boots are pushed to far onto the plugs they will not insulate the metal posts on the cover and the spark will jump to the metal part of the head instead of the spark plugs.

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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Unplug the 14-way connector at the ignition module.

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Fig. Fig. 1: Distributorless C 3 I coils and module system - 3.3L engine
  1. Tag and disconnect the spark plug wires at the coil assembly.
  2. Remove the nuts and washers securing the C 3 I module assembly to the bracket.
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To install:
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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Tag and disconnect the spark plug wires.
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To install:
  1. Install the coil(s) and attaching bolts.
  2. Connect the spark plug wires.
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See Figures 2, 3 and 4
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  3. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
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  5. Remove crankshaft harmonic balancer retaining bolt and crankshaft harmonic balancer.
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Fig. Fig. 2: Harmonic balancer with interrupter rings on C 3 I system
  1. Unplug the electrical connector from the sensor and remove the crankshaft sensor from the vehicle.

To install:
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Fig. Fig. 3: Dual crankshaft sensor - C 3 I system
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Fig. Fig. 4: Distributorless C 3 I positioning tool J-37089 for installing dual crankshaft sensor.system - 3.3L engine

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    CAUTION When removing the housing from the cover, make sure the ground strap stays in place.
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    Fig. Removing the ICM from the camshaft cover

To install:

CAUTION DO NOT wipe grease from the module or coil if the same module is to be replaced. If a new module is to be installed, a package of silicone grease will be included with the module. Spread the grease on the metal face of the module and on the cover where the module seats. This grease is necessary for module cooling.
  1. Install the ICM to the cover.
  2. Install the screws that retain the ICM to the cover.
  3. Install the ground strap, if necessary.
  4. Connect the ignition coils connector to the ICM.
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  5. Install the housing to the cover.
  6. Install the screws that retain the housing to the cover.
  7. Install the spark plug boots and the retainers to the housing, if necessary.
  8. Install the ICM assembly to the engine while carefully aligning the spark boots to the spark plug terminals.
    CAUTION The ICM cover bolts must be installed using isolator washers with the rubber side facing down.
  9. Install the bolts that retain the ICM assembly to the camshaft housing after coating the bolt threads with LOCTITE, or equivalent. Tighten the bolts to 16 ft. lbs. (22 Nm).
  10. Connect the ICM 11 pin harness connector.
  11. Install the bolt to the fuel line retainer clip.
  12. Install the accelerator cable into the hold down clip.
  13. Install the cruise control cable, if applicable. Connect the negative battery cable.

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What size engine have your behicle?

2.2L Engine
  1. Remove the ignition coil housing.
    NOTE Remove any water and debris from the spark plug holes before spark plug removal with compressed air. Remove the spark plugs with a spark plug socket.
  2. Inspect the spark plugs.
To install:
  1. Gap the spark plug, using round wire type spark plug gap gauge. Adjust the spark plug gap to 0.045 in. (1.14mm).
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  2. Install the spark plugs with a spark plug socket. Tighten to 15 ft. lbs. (20 Nm).
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The spark plugs on this engine are located under the ignition coil and module assembly. To gain access to the spark plugs, the coil and module assembly must be removed. On the 2.4L (VIN T) engines, the spark plugs are platinum and require replacement every 100,000 miles (160,900 km) or 60 months which ever comes first.

  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the 4 bolts retaining the Electronic Ignition (EI) coil/module/cover assembly (depending upon vehicle application), then detach the electrical connector. Remove the assembly by pulling it straight up away from the engine.

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    Fig. To remove the cover, unfasten the four bolts, then pull the assembly straight up from the engine
  3. If the connector(s) sticks to the spark plug, use spark plug connector removing tool J-36011 or equivalent, and a twisting motion to detach the connector(s) from the plugs.
  4. Clean any dirt away from the spark plug recess area.
  5. Remove the spark plug using the proper size socket, extensions and universal joints, as necessary. Hold the socket or the extension close to the plug with your free hand, as this will help lessen the possibility of applying a shear force which might snap the plug in half.
To install:
  1. Lubricate the threads lightly with an anti-seize compound, then start the four spark plugs by hand. Tighten the plugs to 14 ft. lbs. (19 Nm).
  2. If removed, install any the plug boot connectors that may have stuck to a spark plug to the EI assembly.
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  3. Install the EI coil/module/cover assembly to the engine, while carefully aligning the boots with the spark plug terminals, by pushing the assembly straight down.
  4. Apply Loctite®thread locking compound, or equivalent to the cover bolts. Install the bolts and tighten to 16 ft. lbs. (22 Nm).
  5. If removed, engage the ignition cover electrical connectors.
  6. Connect the negative battery cable.

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2002 Pontiac Grand Am 2.2L MFI DOHC 4cyl

The spark plugs on this engine are located under the ignition coil and module assembly. To gain access to the spark plugs, the coil and module assembly must be removed. On the 2.4L (VIN T) engines, the spark plugs are platinum and require replacement every 100,000 miles (160,900 km) or 60 months which ever comes first.

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Fig. To remove the cover, unfasten the four bolts, then pull the assembly straight up from the engine

More details in autozone.com (free register).

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2.2L Engine
  1. Observe the following service precautions:

    Allow the engine to cool before removing the spark plugs. Attempting to remove spark plugs from a hot engine can cause the spark plugs to seize. This can damage the cylinder head threads. Clean the spark plug recess area before removing the spark plug. Failure to do so can result in engine damage due to dirt or foreign material entering the cylinder head, or in contamination of the cylinder head threads. Contaminated threads may prevent proper seating of the new spark plug. Use only the spark plugs specified for use in the vehicle. Do not install spark plugs that are either hotter or colder than those specified for the vehicle. Installing spark plugs of another type can severely damage the engine.
  2. Turn the ignition OFF .
  3. Disconnect the Electronic Ignition (EI) module harness connector.
  4. Remove the spark plugs using a 5 / 8 inch spark plug socket.

To install:

WARNING Do not coat spark plug threads with anti-seize compound. If anti-seize compound is used and spark plugs are over-torqued, damage to the cylinder head threads may result.
  1. Inspect the gap on the new spark plugs, re-gap the plugs as required. The spark plug gap specification is 42 inch. (1.0 mm).
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  3. Apply dielectric compound to the spark plug boots and make sure no corrosion is present.
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  6. Connect the EI module harness connector. Push in until a click is heard and pull back to confirm a positive engagement.

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