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Stalls while idling and engine "pops" at 4000rpm or better... im told it could be throttle position sensor, idle speed control motor, power control module, bad vacuum line, bad EGR valve, air filter, fuel filter, oxygen sensors, catalytic converter, clogged injectors, dirty carb & little green gremlins living in the engine...jesus tap dancing christ can ANYONE narrow this down for me????

  • toneman2121
    toneman2121 May 11, 2010

    what are the engine codes?

  • Anonymous Mar 14, 2014

    Or maybe it could be the catalytic converter?

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Actually I am hessitant to respond to this one. The problem you are having COULD be many things, however my take is different than the others you seem to have. I believe that you are having timing issues caused by a Crankshaft Positioning Sensor, and/or Cam Positioning Sensor. Thesee are how the computer knows where they are and adjusts timing to make the engine fire at the correct time, thus it is called timing. The computer makes these adjustment is literally THOUSANTHS of a second, and if the sensor is off just a little especially at very high, and very low revolutions you will have a miss, which will at high RPM's "pop" due to it wanting to stall but because of the RPM's keep momentum, and pops but keeps running but at low RPM w/o that momentum, just stalls. I pray this helps you understand WHY I think you may have timing issues and why.

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