Cars & Trucks Logo

Related Topics:

eric allen Posted on Feb 27, 2017

87 camaro 2.8l jumbled firing order

A friend arrived with a serious misfire issue.
He just had the 2.6 replaced in his camaro but complained that it was running very rough.

The engine was installed, but nobody knew exactly what the engine came out of. blazer, s10, etc

I put a timing light on it and it was a mile away, but the slightest adjustment turning the dist would kill the car.

He told me the guy that installed the engine spent several hours constantly swapping the plug wires around on the cap until the engine would continue to run......but it was still banging and popping.

I've been tooling on cars for 30 years and knew the timing was way off.

To sort it out, I opted to pull the cap and a plug #1 being pass front cylinder on the camaro of that year

As I felt the compression stroke/air force past my finger plugging the SP hole, I saw the rotor pointing at the driver side front cylinder.

That was just about the same time we noticed there were 2 more timing lines on the balancer. one of the 3 is slightly wider.

I spun the engine several more rotations and could never get TDC on the front pass cylinder with the timing mark on the balancer to line up on the timing indicator.

I looked through alldata and tons of googling and see that the #1 cylinder is the front pass.

I ran across a few that showed the front driver cylinder as being #1, so I went for that one.

The rotor would point back to the pass side as the driver front came to TDC.

I pulled the dist with front DS cylinder at TDC and replanted with the rotor not pointing nearly to that cylinder.
Installed the wires properly 123456 and the car started right up,,,,,but still has some bang and pop. detonation

it's currently set up from front to back, driver side 1,3,5 and pass side 2,4,6, #1 at TDC, rotor pointed at #1, and the 123456 on the cap in a clockwise position.

Should I try to go back to making #1 on the pass side front?

Whats the deal with 3 different timing marks on the balancer?

1 Answer

Michael Ferenczy

Level 1:

An expert who has achieved level 1.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Corporal:

An expert that has over 10 points.

  • Contributor 16 Answers
  • Posted on Feb 27, 2017
Michael Ferenczy
Contributor
Level 1:

An expert who has achieved level 1.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Corporal:

An expert that has over 10 points.

Joined: Apr 22, 2010
Answers
16
Questions
0
Helped
2572
Points
32

The timing has to be set right between the cam the crankshaft and the rotor during assembly, sounds like the cam or crank is off.

3 Related Answers

alicantecoli

Colin Stickland

  • 22516 Answers
  • Posted on Dec 07, 2010

SOURCE: 91 Prizm; replaced Cam TIming

take the head off bent valves thats for sure

Ad

Anonymous

  • 209 Answers
  • Posted on Aug 18, 2011

SOURCE: car runs fine until warmed

Sound like you may have a catalytic converter plugging up. Take it to a muffler shop and have them check it for you.

Anonymous

  • 84 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 17, 2011

SOURCE: hello, my '90 corolla stumbles, misfires and has no smooth acceleration, i have replaced, plugs cap wires rotor fuel filter and performed compression check, also verfied timing marks @ tdc.. no check

How long has this been going on? Could be a bad tank of gas... do you fill up at good stations like Chevron or the cheap Mexican ones? Also if you filled up when the tanker truck was filling the station you may have ended up with a tank full of sediment; there's a lot of gunk in their underground tanks and when the tanker tops it off the filling action stirs up a lot of that ****. Try filling the tank with some high-quality 87 octane (91 will make it worse) after putting a bottle of fuel system cleaner in the tank. You should also try pulling the codes; some codes do not cause the check engine light to illuminate but are still stored by the PCM. If all else fails, go back to the basics... fuel, spark and pressure. If you can eliminate two you should be able to make your job easier.

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
2answers
0helpful
1answer

Fireing order on a 1997 camaro rs i.e. which plug goes to which coil

. Fireing order on a 1997 camaro if it is the 3.8 lt engine, this is the order as googled images
0helpful
1answer

What is the plug wiring order for a 2.8 87 camaro

your firing order is 1-2-3-4-5-6, with the #1 cylinder being passenger side, front of engine (fan end), with 3 and 5 towards the firewall. 2-4-6 from front to firewall on drivers side. The #1 spark plug wire should go on the post of the distibutor pointing towards the #1 cylinder from the center of the cap, and then #2 is next in a clockwise motion, with 3, 4, etc. Hope this helps! chevy 2.8, good-day !
0helpful
2answers

When it crank up it cuts right back off it didnt start that until i changed the spark plugs and wires and vacuum lines i went by the fireing oder but it still cuts off with a flutter.what can i do

Here is a diagram of the 302 distributor and firing order. If you connected the wires to the distributor in the firing order, chances are you went in the wrong direction. The diagram shows the rotor spins counterclockwise in the firing order. If it was hooked up reverse, you may have one or two cylinders fire, the rest are a jumbled heap of unburned fuel in the exhaust. Also check your distributor cap for wear, cracks or broken towers. Then check your rotor itself to make sure it is still in good condition and is not burned down/disintegrated. I had a rotor disintegrate on me once, and the car sounded horrible until I got it replaced.

the_ug_11.jpegthe_ug_10.jpeg
0helpful
1answer

1988 chevy camaro 2.8 liter multy port fuel injecton I recenly replaced the fuel pressure regulator, but the car is still running rich, idle surging, and misfire. I appriciate your help>

check you oxygen sensor. check the timing catilitic converters could be pluged now too. running rich can be a cause from that also an efect of running rich if theres another problem. check everything else before replacing the cats becausethey arnt cheap and if ist still running rich it will burn them out. also check the firing order if its real bad u may have one switched. that will cause the cats to glow and burn out.
0helpful
1answer

87 IROC WITH A ZZ4 OUT OF A 91 Z28... fitted a

Fuel pressure? Do you hear the fuel pump running? Read the codes to see if ECM is still alive. Do you have spark at the plugs? Remember all motors need 3 things to run air, fuel, and fire at the right time.
0helpful
3answers

I followed the firing order installing a dist cap on a 91 camaro and still running rough What do I look for now

check plugs -plug gap-vacuum leak-fuel mix-fuel pressure-timing-pcv valve-egr valve-air filter-oil sludge build up-problem in heads[valves adjustment-burnt-weak springs if only changed wires do a complete tune-up and do a compression check
2helpful
2answers

Which is the hole for coolant temp sensor on my 87 camaro 2.8v

located on the left cylinder head. at the front. it is right where the power stering is
1helpful
1answer

Firing order

Well the firing order for a 1997 chevy camaro with a 3.8L Is
1-6-5-4-3-2
--------------------
I 2. 4. 6. I
Front Of I I
car I 1. 3. 5. I
---------------------
Not finding what you are looking for?

386 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Cars & Trucks Experts

ZJ Limited
ZJ Limited

Level 3 Expert

17989 Answers

john h

Level 3 Expert

29494 Answers

Arnie Burke
Arnie Burke

Level 3 Expert

7339 Answers

Are you a Car and Truck Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...