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Jeep CJ 7 problems Dana 30 and AMC 20

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I have a 1979 CJ7 quadratrac V8.I must put a new ring gear and pinion on Dana 30 and AMC 20 (front and rear).Must the ring gear and pinion be the same with the same ratio (4.10) front and rear or can they be different?

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    I must change a head gasket to my CJ7 2500 gas 4 cylinders engine 150 AMC year 1984.What's the exact pressures of closure for the head bolts?Thanks

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Gear ratio on 4 wheel drives are matched up together so that one does not push or drag the other if you change one it will affect the other

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