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Installing load panel & inlet box

I will be installing a Reliance load panel with a generator circuit. I will be wiring the panel to the inlet box for 50A service if and when I get a larger generator.
I currently have a 20A generator so to avoid changing the wiring I want to go for 50A service from the load panel to the inlet box using a 4-prong 50A inlet box but using my 20A generator.

Can I use a 20A generator cable and attach a 50A female end or will the connections in the plug not tighten down on the smaller wire?

The 20A generator will be upgraded in the future but want to have the hardwiring capable of the larger generator.

Another option is using a 30A inlet box and changing the 20A cable to a 30A female end and I would think the #6 wire from the panel would work in the 30A inlet box..which is another question, any advice appreciated.

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The bigger lugs will tighten just fine. Go that route and it will be easy to upgrade! If it seems way large when you put the wire in, strip the wire back and double it over. The # 6 may be a bit big for the 30 amp lugs. 30 amp circuit is usually # 10.

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I am pretty sure you would have to order that breaker to get it. if its 200 amp panel it will hold 200 amps. why do you think u would have to derate it for the solar panels. they do not create any electric load as I would think they would actually feed power into the panel and feed it back to the power grid. that would in itself lighten the load on the 200 amp main. I am going to sign up for the mobile app thing. as soon as I read up on it and will be able to discuss this more as u wish and offer assistance if need be.

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Circuit breaker trips frequently. It is a double 20 amp switch.

Is this breaker connected to water heater?

1) A double 20 amp breaker is called a 240Volt breaker.
20 amp breaker is actually rated for 16 amps for safety margin.
It is also important that this breaker have 12 gauge wire which is color-coded yellow.
Look at label on side of water heater for wattage of unit.

2) For example 4500 Watt water heater is typical.
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3) If breaker is getting old, and it works at full load each time water heater is on, it can wear out.
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4) You can also move circuit breaker wire to another same-size breaker and see if problem continues.

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