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Why won't my engine crank?

While driving the car quit running. The oil pressure light had just came on. Car started right back up, but soon died again. It would not restart, and won't even turn over.

  • Alan Tatom
    Alan Tatom May 23, 2016

    Thanks for your help. Got the timing cover off and the oil pump is froze up and so is the front crank bearing. He got her real hot.

  • Rocguy May 23, 2016

    Thanks for posting back. It's a learning experience for everyone that reads this. I imagine someone has a pretty big job ahead of them

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Does the battery have 12+ volts? Can you check the starter wire for system voltage while someone tries to crank? (With no help, extend wires so you can see your multimeter from the drivers seat) If those things check out fine, it's time to suspect the starter. If the battery is dead, it's "possible" the alternator has gone out. If you get it charged up good and started. You can watch battery voltage for a bit and make sure it's showing higher than it was when you got it to start. This indicates the alternator is charging. I would start there and see what your results are.

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    Alan Tatom May 21, 2016

    Battery good. starter tries to crank. Put socket and breaker bar on harmonic balancer bolt, but engine will not turn.

  • Rocguy May 21, 2016

    What happens when it tries to crank? Is this manual or auto trans? You could try taking out the spark plugs and see if it will turn. I have a hard time believing the engine just locked up but, I suppose it's possible.

  • Alan Tatom
    Alan Tatom May 22, 2016

    When trying to crank, the motor just bumps. Auto trans and Plugs are out. I find it hard to believe, also. The car only has 150,000 miles on it and it was my daily driver. I've been a mechanic for over 45 years, so I took good care of it. Just sold it the day before this happened. Could the oil pump have seized on the crank?

  • Rocguy May 22, 2016

    Oh, I didn't realize you are an experienced mechanic. I did notice you knew a thing or two when you mentioned putting a socket and bar on the pulley. I wouldn't have bothered with those simple questions had I known that. Would it be a big pain on this vehicle to pull the distributor and see if the pump turns free?

  • Alan Tatom
    Alan Tatom May 22, 2016

    No distributor in 1997 buick. The oil pump is external, part of intergrated into the timing belt cover, ran by the crankshaft. The reason I pulled the spark plugs was because I have ran into the hydro-lock problem before. Thought that was the problem.

  • Rocguy May 22, 2016

    I can recommend asking at another site with mechanics on it. Maybe they have run into it. Let them know what you have already tried so they wont ask the basic stuff. www.batauto.com

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Yes, check the oil, battery, if it is too low the alternator is probably not charging it and the car will shut down as the battery drops. Look for a blown oil line and if none of those fit the bill change the oil filter as it my be plugged. AND IF YOU HAVE 3000 PDS OF KEYS ON YOUR KEY RING REMOVE ALL BUT THE CAR KEYS AND YOUR HOUSE KEYS... THE IGNITION ISN'T A KEY HOLDER AND ALL KINDS OF GREMLINS CAN AND WILL COME A KNOCKING.

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    David Bugden Jul 02, 2016

    Yes, check the oil, battery, if it is too low the alternator is probably not charging it and the car will shut down as the battery drops. Look for a blown oil line and if none of those fit the bill change the oil filter as it my be plugged. AND IF YOU HAVE 3000 PDS OF KEYS ON YOUR KEY RING REMOVE ALL BUT THE CAR KEYS AND YOUR HOUSE KEYS... THE IGNITION ISN'T A KEY HOLDER AND ALL KINDS OF GREMLINS CAN AND WILL COME A KNOCKING.

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Does the engine have the correct oil amount in it. Sometimes there is a sensor that monitors oil level. If sensor reads to low it will not start.

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Id check what Rocguy said, but, since you saw the oil pressure light come on you could have burned your rings, crank bearing or cam bearing(s). is there any click or anything when you try to start? if so, you have power. what is your oil level? do you have a (major) oil leak anywhere under the engine?

if you still have oil level (check it a few times), then you need to check your radiator and tranny fluid. make sure there is no oil in either. you could have blown a head gasket still but its leaking into your coolant. you may have to remove a radiator hose to checkvfor oil. (top and bottom hoses).

it doesnt sound good from my perspective.

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  • rrb6699 Jun 05, 2016

    id check what Rocguy said, but, since you saw the oil pressure light come on you could have burned your rings, crank bearing or cam bearing(s). is there any click or anything when you try to start? if so, you have power. what is your oil level? do you have a (major) oil leak anywhere under the engine?

    if you still have oil level (check it a few times), then you need to check your radiator and tranny fluid. make sure there is no oil in either. you could have blown a head gasket still but its leaking into your coolant. you may have to remove a radiator hose to checkvfor oil. (top and bottom hoses).

    it doesnt sound good from my perspective.

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