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Mercedia Allmond Posted on Mar 15, 2015

Windows cannot go up or down

The fuses and relay switch has been changed

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If fuses and relays are good or new, your gonna have to check the window motor and switch next. You'll have to remove the door panel for this and a test light as well which can be found at your local auto parts. Once the door panel is off, leave the window switch plugged in. Connect your alligator clip on the test light to a ground source. Then find the 2 wires that go to the window motor. Make sure your ignition switch is on and stick the tip of the test light into one of the wires that go to the motor and try the window switch. If the test light turns on, stick into the other wire too. If the test light turns on when the switch is hit, you have a bad window motor. If the test light doesn't turn on when you try the switch for either wire, you may have a bad window switch or your main window switch at the driver seat (master switch) is bad. Hope this helps you out. Good luck.

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