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Using 4 individual breakers tied together with bar accross switches, what size individual breakers will I need to use to use for a 200 amp breaker

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50 amps for each breaker?
What are you doing?
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html

Something sounds wrong with your question, and I see a code violation in the making.
Add a comment March 2013 and give more detail about what you are connecting to 4 breakers.
I am concerned about fire hazard.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 10, 2009

SOURCE: 20 AMP Cutler Hammer CH GFI wont fit in the breaker box

It will fit, the extra bump out on the back makes it a bit harder to hook the back locking tab before you push it on the bussing. Also, make sure no wires are in the way obstructing the bump out since it hangs out further than the standard breakers. The most common problem is the bump out making it hard to hook the locking tab onto the outer rail. Make sure the breaker is in the off position, then try holding it more flat as you insert it keeping it close to the bussing. This will help keep the extra bump out from obstructing the locking tab from hooking the back rail. Once it's hooked on the back rail you can push it on the bussing like normal.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 18, 2010

SOURCE: i live in a mobile home with a westinghouse DP 200

If you've been resetting the breaker alot, it will wear out eventuallly. Also, if the dryer is electric, and the stove is electric, those both draw alot of amps. You may want to "stagger" usage to avoid running both large draw appliances at the same time.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 08, 2010

SOURCE: What size main breaker do I need for a 125 amp

for 125 amp load you can use by the following calc:
125x125% based on NEC 2008

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Feb 14, 2011

SOURCE: 200 amp breaker is melting

Main breaker has gone bad.
Turn off as many small breakers as you can to see if overheating will stop.
All 240V breakers should be turned off.

If breaker will not stabilize after turning off small breakers, then turn main off.

Next step is to call electrician and give him brand of box, for example GE, FPE or Square D.
If main breaker overheating has caused damage to busbars, then new box will be needed.
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html

You can also replace a main breaker yourself if local codes allow it.
You will have to call power company and have them remove lock-ring on meter, and then pull meter yourself using instructions on following link.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-circuit-breaker.html
Buy replacement main breaker at electric supply or Home Center. Match with same breaker as existing.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Feb 18, 2011

SOURCE: 1 question can Cutler Hammer breakers have the

There seem to be several questions mingled in with those 2 questions.

1) Amps can go either way

2) Breakers trip when heat exceeds certain level. Heat is caused by amps.

3) You want to add a subpanel in garage.
I do not know the code in your area for installing a subpanel.
Your plan will work by connecting 6 gauge wire to main breaker, and new 60 amp breaker will protect wires between main box and subpanel.
Remember, wires going into main breaker cannot be turned off without pulling meter.
Some areas require license to pull meter.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-circuit-breaker.html

4) To work around license and meter-pull, simply replace a 240V breaker in main panel with your new 60 amp breaker.
Then move breakers around to match new set-up.
New subpanel can accommodate two new 240V breakers and one new 120 Breaker
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-a-subpanel.html

5) 6 gauge wire is correct for 60 amp breaker.

6) I'm not sure what you mean by the box rails?

7) Do you need more amperage on main service?
This means adding a larger service panel with 150 Watt or 200 Watt main breaker.
Some areas require service upgrade when remodeling or adding circuits.

8) How to figure total amp draw at your house.
Add up total watts being used.
For example you have 1/2 Hp motor
754 watts per Hp
1/2 Hp = 377Watts
Volts x Amps = Watts
Amps = Watts divided by Volts.
377 Watts divided by 240Volts = 1.57 amps (plus a bit more amperage when motor starts)
40 watt light bulb divided by 120Volts = .33 amps
Double oven has label located inside door that shows upper and lower wattage.
Dishwasher, dryer, big screen TV, satellite receiver all have labels that show wattage.
Water heater has label that shows wattage of each element.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Figure-Volts-Amps-Watts-for-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html

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2) Wire is too small.
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