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Relay clicks, gas blows, rollers dont turn

I was welding with a snap on muscle mig welder for about 2 minutes. i started getting sloppy welds so i hit the gas purge button. pulled the trigger and heard gas coming out but no wire feed. circuit breaker for the building blew. went and reset it and now i cant get the rollers to turn. lead is plugged it properly. any ideas?

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Try loosening your roller feed drives and pull on the wire to see if it moves, also cut the wire at the roller drives and reload the wire it may be binding in the whip.



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Check the actuator wires inside the welder, they look like speaker connections...one of the wires may not be connected....most mig welders theyre located inside the welder just below the spools next to the firewall

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If you use it regularly, the liner should be replaced about every 6 months. Make sure you get a wiper for the wire. It goes inside the machine, on the wire, just before the feed rollers. It keeps the dust from clogging the liner.

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