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Update will eat up my hard drive?

Greeting everyone,

The laptop I am using right now is the Eee PC 1000 (40 GB solid state) with window XP service pack 2 installed (in replace to Linux -pre installed). Just like other common user, I set my automatic update On and do whatever update it ask me to do. One day after numerous updates, included IE and sevice pack 3 update, my perivous theme on the computer doesn't work anymore along with the Firefox I am using (in addition to that, the bookmark is gone too - I can't find them in the Local setting folder) I also discover that a big chunk of the hard drive memory is used up without trace on my window-installed drive (I high-light All the folders on that hard drive and click property, showen around 3.5 GB in total while when I click property on the solid hard drive, it said 6.7GB is used). I did a system restore and the window theme works again, but the firefox and memory did come back alive....

so my question is: Where did my memory go?

I don't know if I post enough details about this problem, so if anyone is willing to help this loser please e-mail to manmantong2000usa@hotmail.com for more details, Thank you!!

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  • manmantong20 Nov 17, 2008

    Thank you for your detailed respond = D I didn't feel like alone anymore



    Restate my background info: My laptop is the Eee PC 1000 with 40 GB solid state memory (8 GB + 32 GB to be precise, and Operating system goes to the "faster" 8 GB drive" I had the Linux remove in replace with Window XP service pack 2, which comes with a vista-looking theme and some other stuff in control that are not found in XP home edition (my uncle said it is a user-modifed verison that remove some un-need program and stuff out of the home edition) The window require less memory to install and run, so it could go fast even if the computer has low status like 1 GB memory.



    I don't recall how often I set the window to save restore points, nor knowing how much space it acutally use (system restore feature saved me many times when I did stupid stuffs, like this for example) So it would be very helpful if I could get some information about system restore and how to make sure it doesn't used up too much resource.



    The theme I was talking about is the vista-like theme that comes with the Window Service pack 2, and after I made the update into service pack 3, the theme automatically change into like a window classic theme, with my Firefox completely damage and not running. I don't have the intention of bring it back anymore, but I don't know how could an update do that much to my computer.



    I also still want to know how come when I high-lighted all the folder in the Window-intalled drive and hit "Property", the total memory does not match to the System memory used even thought I added the vitual memory together? (ex. I have 3.5 GB of "stuff" when I high-light the folder and hit property, and 1.5 GB of the drive memory use for vitual memory, but the total memory use on the drive turns out 6.7 GB....??) so please let me know what other ways can window eat my computer so that I can pull my computer out of it's mouth.



    Also I have a question about solid state drive: What so good about it? why not hard drive but solid state? My uncle said it is better because it is less likely to crash of broken or whatever, so is that true?

  • manmantong20 Nov 17, 2008

    To sybabe,



    Thank you for your quick respond! the information was helpful but I do like to have more answer on the memory lost, the side-effect from update, and solution to these problems!

  • manmantong20 Nov 17, 2008

    To sybabe,



    Thanks again for all your help!

    ---

    Window XP service pack 2



    Ram: 0.99



    Vitual memory 1522mb - 1544mb



    System restore: 461 mb



    E drive (window installed drive) contents (high light all + "Property"): 3.61 GB (3,881,747,962 bytes); size of disk - 3.43 GB (3,693,539,092 bytes)



    E drive memory usage:

    Used space: 6,838,730,753 bytes (6.36GB)

    Free space: 1,222,008,832 bytes (1.13GB)

    Capacity: 8,060,739,584 bytes (7.50GB)



    *disk cleanup was already done



    So I should add the Ram in when I try to add up the system memory used myself..??

    ---

    The Firefox's bookmarks that I save is gone from the local setting folder, so I must say the update did more than what it suppose to do....



    thanks for the solid state drive information!



    Restate my question: Will the update that I download and installed after the system restore point remain in my computer as junk files? if so how can I delete it? and also I want to know if there is any program I could use to map out how much memory goes to where in my hard drive so I don't have to guess?



    PS one reason I don't like IE: this is the second time I type this comment, because the first time my IE gives me an page error after I click "post it", and when I hit go back the comment is goen -- something that will not happen in Firefox.

  • manmantong20 Nov 18, 2008

    To sybabe,



    that comment was about calculation not adding new ram, sorry for the confusion.

    I would like to chat with you as well, but it looks like the live chat feature in this website cost 20 bucks...?



    Restate my question: Will the update that I download and installed after the system restore point remain in my computer as junk files? if so how can I delete it? and is there a way I could find out how much memory went to where?

  • manmantong20 Nov 18, 2008

    Alright, the problem is basically solved, Thank you very much for all your help!

    p.s. the Firefox did come back, ya = D


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How often do you set a system restore point? Hearing that you did a system restore. is a great idea unless you needed the stuff that got deleted during the restore point...You should have the bookmarks and other applications or anything you had up to the restore point you set last or chose. If you said there was much of your storage used up, it may be due to the new installations (40gb is not much nowadays...a whole operating system uses about and regular use for about up to 6 months, uses pretty much close to 30gb or more, depending on what you do. Question is, if your previous theme was set with linux or do you mean previous theme before you installed updates? You do you need to read the updates as some may change the look and style of your display. usually not, but...let me know if there is more...

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  • zabrina liang Nov 17, 2008

    Actually, system restore is like time travelling--->you can take the computer as far back as you want---just make sure you back up anything you DO want because backdating may not have the new data you created before that point!

  • zabrina liang Nov 17, 2008

    I'm sorry, but the numbers you gave me were a bit confusing.

    Let's start over--->

    How much hard drive storage is installed? How much RAM is installed on your laptop?
    Then, see if you can tell me how much of the hard drive you are using.


  • zabrina liang Nov 17, 2008

    Here is a link to your question of solid-state drives:http://mae.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_...

    In sum, it is less fragile than a hard drive, and access is faster. However, usually the costs are higher until now with further research, etc. The reason why it will require less memory to run is due to the solid-state drive. Your uncle is right in that it will crash less because it is made out of different material.

    "I also still want to know how come when I high-lighted all the folder
    in the Window-intalled drive and hit "Property", the total memory does
    not match to the System memory used even thought I added the vitual
    memory together? (ex. I have 3.5 GB of "stuff" when I high-light the
    folder and hit property, and 1.5 GB of the drive memory use for vitual
    memory, but the total memory use on the drive turns out 6.7 GB....??)
    so please let me know what other ways can window eat my computer so
    that I can pull my computer out of it's mouth."

    The reason for this inconsistency is a common event...I wouldn't worry about it too much. My computer says I have 78.something of a harddrive, but I am supposed to have 80 GB. You still hav eplenty of space left after 6.7gb is used.

    As far as your firefox, check which version you have downloaded. The most recent version is always the best one as moxilla constantly updates it to be more compatible with more operating systems every time! I hope this answer was better!







  • zabrina liang Nov 17, 2008

    Hi manmantong20,

    Thank you for all the information. Now, let's try to isolate the problems one at a time so I can help you with what you are looking for if you have not already found it. I'm glad I could help you understand the solid-state drive.

    "So I should add the Ram in when I try to add up the system memory used myself..??" Are you trying to install new RAM, or do you mean calculating?
    (Note: I will be at my laptop for a little while, so if you have the time, I can troubleshoot with you through our posting right away. Otherwise, I might suggest the use of our Chat Assistance to help you with your issues.)


    Please just give one or two pieces of information at a time so we can lessen the confusion and work our way towards a solution. Thanks!







  • zabrina liang Nov 18, 2008

    Restate my question: Will the update that I download and installed
    after the system restore point remain in my computer as junk files? if
    so how can I delete it? and is there a way I could find out how much
    memory went to where?

    I think I see what you are trying to do. If you do not want your updates, You can actually go back a day and restore your computer BEFORE you installed the updates. This may actually help you get all your bookmarks back from FIREFOX (bonus). Then you will not need to know where they are stored. If you think you are advanced enough, you can view each updates and decide whether it is appropriate for you or not.

    To find out memory allocation, here is one way of doing it: Go to My Computer icon, and right-click on your harddrive. This will show how much memory you have, and how much free space you have left.

    Then, double-click your hard drive (excuse me, solid-state drive:) and you can right-click on whichever folder you want to find the memory allocated for each folder. You can do this for each file within the folder as well.

    Hope this helps!





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