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Magnetron cooling fan

My Ge Spacesaver which is a year old has a problem. The inside light and the Magnetron cooling fan runs continous by itself when the microwave is in the off setting or at rest. Opening the door stops the fan. I can program the microwave to cook and it works fine but the fan never shuts off. My flow chart for troubleshooting says it the HV transformer. I'm not sure that is the problem??

Any suggestions!

Jim

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  • jimrinch Sep 02, 2008

    I went back and checked. The cabinet light was burnt out so it is on with the magnetron fan and the turntable. All three run with the door shut and the unit at rest. Opening the door shuts everything off. The vent/exhaust fan runs ok. I can turn it on and off.

  • Anonymous Sep 23, 2008

    same problem, had it repaired under warrenty when the thing also stopped cooking....now almost immediately it's turning itself on and staying on until i unplug it to get the vent to stop


  • jimrinch Sep 23, 2008

    Solution: The control board was bad and replacing it with a new one fixed the problem. Just guessing ..one of the relays was stuck causing everything to run when at rest. Thanks for the help!



    Jim

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Are you sure it is the internal blower and not the VENT fan ?

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I just had one today that was doing exactly what you said, but no small relays were closed. Traced it to a turntable motor that worked fine but some liquid seeped into it so it shorted coil to ground. Was hot and smelled burned too.

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Oh, mine's most definitely the "exhaust" fan (scare quotes because it is a recirculating filter)

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