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When I am recording LP's and cassettes I am getting what sound like sampling errors during track sections with low levels. Tracks with high levels sound OK but soft tracks seem to have 'holes' where the sound sinks down and then clips coming back in. Quite an unsatisfactory sounding result. This problem is evident on the Master project file. I have tried different sampling rates when recording and also different 'cleaning' effects with no success. Any suggestions?

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You certainly let the microphone or audio out volume during recording.
when you record from external source it is better to cut the volume master volume unchecking it in
the window mixer .

when no sound it amplifies itselfs and do a "larcene" I do not know how you spell it in english.
a mini effect like a micro doing that horrible noise when .. I thing you know what I mean.. :)

if not this, its a rca problem of quality of the cables, or the cables pass close to an adapter,
I've got this problem 'cos I have 2 mixtables chained and the cable was passing over the power
supply of one of my cpu.

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