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When lighting my LG model furnace the pilot will light but when I turn the gas knob to ON after holding in the pilot position for the minute it goes out and will not stay lit. What parts do I need to replace?

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The pilot generator most likely; if not there is a short in the gas valve and it will need to be replaced. Generators are a normal wear-and-tear replacement part...gas valves are not. The generator should be under $40 and is pretty easy to replace. Some places call the part the thermocouple but either name works. It is the metal 'stick' with a metal-clad set of wires from it the sticks up next to the pilot flame and is in turn heated up by the pilot to power the rest of the heater.

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  • Tom Fortmann
    Tom Fortmann Jul 06, 2015

    Is it possible to replace the pilot generator without removing the whole value and burner assembly? My heater does not have a coupling at the value and will require un-threading the pipe from the value.

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