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I have 2 hvac units running an electric heating element for the heater. Both limit controls are set the same. One is ignited the flames and continuing with flames for close to 3 min. The other is taking longer to ignite and only running 1min 45 sec. Do I need to replace the complete limit control or is there some other sensor which could be causing the long delays and short heat cycle. ( I did switch electronic flame sensor and no change)

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Hi, these Honeywell combination fan/limit controls are used for turning the fan on after the combustion changer reaches the factory setting on the round dial that you see when you remove the cover. The high limit will turn the fan on when it reaches this temperature, and off when the stat is satisfied. If the blower motor fails due to a burn out or short, it shuts the main burners down on the high limit setting. These controls can be removed and you can clean the probe which has a set of contacts at the end. Sometimes this will fix the problem. Check the settings on the dial to see if they are set right to come on, the time it takes between cycles, and the temperature they are set to shut off. This sounds as though you need to check your thermostats also. They could be a problem. You say electric heat, but then you are saying flames? If these limits have the manual fan button, make sure they are on auto. Long delays could also mean you have a dirty flame sensor located by the pilot. You can clean the metal tip with steel wool or fine sanding cloth. Short heating cycles may be your thermostats like I said before. You shouldn't have to replace the fan/limits as I told you what they control. These will cause a fan to run and not shut off after the stat is done, so check to see if they are dirty. Please keep me posted.
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