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Anonymous Posted on Jan 16, 2011

Hello, I have a Rheem 81V52D 50 gal. residential water heater. I had the upper element short out. I replaced both the upper & lower elements with the 4500 watt 230v. My problem now is that the upper circuit breaker keeps tripping about every hour. The water gets hot as long as I keep re-setting the breaker on the thermostat. Do you think that I may have a bad thermostat?

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It's probably bad upper or lower thermostat.
BUT... new element could also be shorted.
OR ... original tank is rated 1500 watt elements look at label on side of tank.
I always replace both thermostats to save time.
Lower thermostat costs $10 at Lowes.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

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