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Hi, I have a Tasco PDP3 redpoint on a 12 guage shotgun. It will group good for 3 shots then wonder off. I've found it to be loose somewhere on every occasion but the last one. My last shot hit the bullseye of the target below the one I was aiming at. I've had some great 3 shot groups but the fourth shot will find itself somewhere completely off the target. At this point I'm wondering if its the Tasco and since its new in October, wondering if it has a warrantee. I purchased it installed by a local gunsmith. My last optiion is to take it off and loctite everything. If that doesn't fix it, guess its time to return it somewhere. What do you think.

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This does sound like it needs a bit of Loctite. But, You need to check this first, Is the scope being put in a bind due to heat from shooting. So, shoot for your group but wait say 7 to 8 minutes in between each shot. If in this case the gun stays on target every time, she is just getting hot and the heat is causing expansion in the mount / receiver area. If she jumps around during you timed shooting, then Loctite her in place, and Retry. If your sighting in slugs for deer hunting, your shots will always be from a cold gun, she needs to be on target cold not hot.

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