Does any one make a vacuum for these types of pools that works through the filter like an inground pool. I have only seen a system that you attach your garden hose to which creates a suction into a catch bag but this doesn't work very well.

If you have a above ground pool go with the Cartridge or sand, and if underground go sand or D.E. All have their ups and down you should find out what you want from them specifically cause they all do varying amounts of the same thing.

Sand Filters (Filters using literally sand)
For sand filters, on inground pools, I like to use a 30 inch tank diameter, which is a 4.9 sq. ft. filter surface area, and holds 600 lbs of sand. For small pools (under 20,000 gals), I might advise the next size down (24 inch tank), if the budget is tight. But never go smaller than a this for an inground pool.
Cartridge Filters (like a air filter)
I have a rule of thumb for cartridge pool filters. 100 sq. ft. of filter surface area per 10,000 gals of pool water, as a minimum. I like to see the 400 sq. ft. models on inground pools above 25,000 gals. These can go an entire season without cleaning in most cases.
D.E. Filters (Ground up fossilized algae)
Because they offer the most superior type of filtration, people tend to go small with DE, and buy a 24 or 36 sq. ft. DE filter. Ugh - go Big! Nothing below a 48 sq. ft. filter, and if your pool is over 25,000 gals, go with the Big Boy - the 60 sq. ft. filter.

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Also make sure the filter can take the amount of water that the pump is pushing through it.

Question:

How do I close my pool for the season?

by Osko Pool n Spa Information
By following the provided instructions, you will be able to professionally close your pool for the winter season. Additionally, you will protect it from winters abuse and make opening it next season...simple.

Required Tools
a) Standard Screw Driver
b) Phillips Screw Driver
c) Ratchet Set
e) Plumber Pliers
f) Sump Pump
g) Extension Cord
h) Garden Hose
i) Five Gallon Bucket
j) Air Pump or Shop Vac
k) Pool Vac & Accessories

Required Chemicals
a) Pool Shock
b) Algecide
c) Chlorinating Tablets

Required Accessories
a) Winter Cover
b) Pool Pillows or Inner-tubes
c) Chlorine Float Dispenser
d) Water Bags (for ingrounds only)

Step One - Debris & Chemicals
Remove any debris from pool water by use of a leaf rake attachment.
Add the appropriate amount of shock treatment to the pool water, as prescribed on the packaging.
Add the appropriate amount of algecide to the pool water, as prescribed on the packaging.
Run your filter for the appropriate time to circulate all water once.
(see your filter documentation for your size pool)
Install your floating Dispenser and winterizing tablets.

Step Two - Vacuum & Water Level
Vacuum your pool while setting your filter to the "back wash" or "waste" setting.
(this will help lower your water level)
After vacuuming, install the sump pump and drain pool to about 6 inches below your thru-the-wall skimmer.

Step Three - Parts Dissassembly & Cleaning
Disconnect all ladders, filter systems, hoses, solar reels and/or other accessories.
Using standard household cleansers, thoroughly clean all ladders, solar reels and/or other accessories.
Dissassemble filtration system.
Remove sand, cartridge or DE powder from your filtration tank.
Thoroughly clean all filter system parts.
Allow all items to dry.
Store all items in an area that will not be subject to freezing temperatures.

Step Four - Pillow & Cover Installation
Inflate all pool pillows or inner-tubes.
Install one pillow for every 15' of linear water surface.
(example: a 15' x 30' would require at least two pillows)
Tie pillows to pool area via nylon rope and place equally with respects to pool walls and each other.
(this is extremely important! This prevents freeze damage)
Install winter cover as prescribed by the covers manufacturer.

Step Five - Winter Tips
During the winter months, remove any excess snow from the winter cover.
(If you have a solid cover, this will prevent excessive weight form tearing you cover)
(If you have a mesh cover, this will prevent excessive water build up)

Hey, Your Finished! Congratulations, you just saved money while doing a professional job

That is because it is not really intended to do that. This is a very low end, entry level pool pump that is actually a toy. You need to upgrade to a industry type of entry level pool pump/filter assembly. Contact your local pool store professional and they would provide you with information on what is available for these type of pools. Make the decision to spend the extra money & don't look back. You will not regret it! Yes it may cost more for a pump & filter setup than you paid for the complete setup originally, but so what!!? That should not matter! You have a "Container" of water that you will be getting into, children, friends, grandchildren, etc. You want that water filtered so no bacteria is present and your precious users of the pool won't get sick. That is what you want ultimately. Filter that container of water with a decent circulating & filtering system. It does not matter if that container is a Horse watering trough or a gold lined, diamond embedded & bejeweled stainless steel inground vessel. It still needs to be filtered. Get the best you can afford. Many can afford more that what comes with that type of pool you get at the big box stores. The pool / container for that water, is really a decent product and at a very good price. But the equipment that comes with it is a joke.

Yes as long as you are sure to match the flow rate of the pump to the filter. The biggest limit will be the low maximum flow rate the EC40 has. It will clog up to fast if installed on a larger pool...inground pools are generally larger (more gallons of water) than above ground. The pumps are more important to match as far as using inground rated units for inground pools and above ground for inground. Filters only care about flow rate and overall volume of water to keep clean.

John

Make sure that there are no obstructions in the pump, filter, and flaps of the cleaner. Debris can restrict movement of this type of automatic pool cleaner. Also check for hose leaks and to make sure that your suction is correct.

de filters clog very fast i suggest put vac in pool put hose over pool attach a wet vac to get water out of hose remove wet vac and vac saves de and water

You will find it won't climb walls, but should clean just fine on the bottom area.

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