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No Life, does NOT power up, Fuse is OK

The unit fails to power up. There is no problem with the AC fuse, but somehow the 13 VDC dos not get generated. The 13 Volts transformer is OK. The "POWER" pin from the connector on the AC input PCB does not seem to be getting the up. Any thoughts? ? ? Thanks

SAM

  • TAWDI May 10, 2008

    Thank you much for trying. There is no problem with the standby transformer, secondary OK, Bridge rectifier across the secondary [13 v ] OK, but the unit does NOT even light up, nor does the power On/Off switch do anything. Even if the AC line is brought directly to the primary of the main power transformer the receiver does not even light up. Again thank you much for trying.Tawdi

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Try this since it might be dead any ways put on surge protector hit the surge button 3 times fast this can shock the system and bring it back
heres another idea why its off fraid wires in the speaker outputs jacks sometimes the little wires pull off inside when disconnecting system this can trigger a fault in sterio to complete shut down till cleaned out hair is also a very good conductor to shutting down the system

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There is apparently some component in the stanby circuit that is malfunctioning. There may be a milli amp fuse off the standy transformer secondary. Check - don't confuse with a resistor. It may read 2 ohms or less

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