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Problem with speed control does not change sped

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I haven't ever worked on these units. But from looking at the parts catalog, (pg 4) and considering your failure, I would suspect you have a bad speed control. And being that it is a potentiometer, it's pretty likely to be the cause. (Item #1)

http://www.hobartlink.com/extranet/extranetmanualsandcatalogs.nsf/0420EE614011415A85256FE2004E0FFA/$File/F43101%20Rev%20A_lk.pdf

I would ask Hobart, but I doubt any special tools would be required. (NO splicing, crimping, or soldering)

I hope this helps - Mike

Posted on May 12, 2008

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http://www.marbeck.com/mixers_kitchenaid_parts.html

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