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Anonymous Posted on Aug 19, 2010

I have one of these on a DE filter that I had installed. I'm due to do a backwash. I don't see how to connect the backwash hose. The picture shows a 90 degree white plastic fitting and a clear plastic fitting that I don't have. I'm thinking maybe the pool guy "forgot" to leave those for me. Are those what I need? Or, am I missing something else?

  • Anonymous Aug 19, 2010

    Oops, looks like the product description got lost. I'm talking about a Pentair valve, p/n 261165

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Should be a pipe at the top (push pull valve) going to waste.

Here is what to do ... set it to back wash, turn on the pump ... be prepared to shut it off really quick! When if there is no pipe, you will certinly know where it goes.

When I maintained DE for a commercial pool, I found it easier to get a good 'backwash' by taking the cover off and removing the screens and hosing them off with a hose. You might try this method. (We have sense changed to sand filters)

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Does this pump Dynamo DYN 11-n1-1 serial no 1-23-JO9 have to be backwashed and if so...how?

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I need a picture of where the valves are on the filter that are used in the backwash. The instructions in the link don't show a picture of the valves.

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You do not backwash a DE pump and the valves it refers to are only there if the plumber/installer designed the pipe run to allow you to regenerate the filter in such a way. Otherwise you should have a valve at the port near the bottom (Like the one shown in pictures in the lower right corner of page 1) of the filter tank that is used to drain the tank to allow it to be cleaned and then recoated with new earth. The directions for such are found on page 3 of the manual the link below leads to.

http://www.haywardnet.com/products/manuals/pdfs/manual9.pdf

If this answer does not fix your problem, please comment with additional details prior to rating the answer. Positive feedback is appreciated once your problem is solved!

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The first thing you will do is turn off the system, change the valve position to the Backwash position. If you have a Multiport Valve, you will press down on the handle and spin it so that the knotch is pointed to BACKWASH. If you have a Slide Valve, only has two positions, up and down, you turn the handle so that the metal pin is out of the holder and move the handle in the opposite direction. You will need to turn the handle to lock the pin into position.

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You will slowly pour the slurry into the skimmer that is closest to the pump. This will allow the DE to evenly coat the grids in the filter. Wait about 5 minutes and then check the pressure gauge on the filter. Once the PSI reaches 8 to 10 PSI above this number, it is time to backwash.
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