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22 cu ft. bottom freezer has defrost problem,replaced cotrol board,and defrost terminator,heater ohms out good still frosting up.Help!!!

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It needs to be confirmed that your auto defrost timer is the main culprit.You will need to confirmt he wiring of the timer once again, the lines to the heater and to the cut off relay of the compressor starter. First of all the timer can be tested out , make sure that you mark the connections with the wires colours and see if the timer works fine. If so when the complettion of the 8 hours cycle( normally) the realy will trip for the auto defrost. So try to observe the working of the timer so that you know that it works. If so your defrost fault will be cured. Hope my advice helps . Good day

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