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Did I kill my el-wire with current?

I was running el-wire off of a heavy duty 10 amp 12 volt power supply and it worked ok for awhile, then quit.  I thought the driver died but I have tried it with a working fish driver and nothing happens.  Can the el-wire be no good anymore or do I just have the wrong power supply?  It also doesn't work on a 9 volt.  It is several years old, like maybe 5.  How long is the stuff supposed to last normally?
Thanks for your advice,
Tracy

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I don't know anything about el-wire except what I have just read on this site:

http://www.elec2go.com.au/category5_1.htm

It looks like there are limitations to the inverters and length of liffe due to outputs and frequencies. Length of wire will govern which inverter to use.

Maybe your HD 10 amp 12 volt power supply simply burnt out the wire? Consider that (on the page I have just looked at) inverters are run on 2 AA batteries or 6v inverters and output 6 mAmps (not 12 volt and definitely not 10 Amp!). Is this Power Supply an inverter specifically for the el-wire?

Read up this web site (and others) and you may find the solution (and the cause of the problem).

Sorry I can't help any further than directing you to the Internet.

Posted on May 12, 2008

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